jkim123

Im Asian and from Illinois. Im going for RD.
i have 4.7 GPA
610 Verbal
800 Math
710 Writing (12 ESSAY)
710 SAT II PHYSICS
720 SAT II MATH IIC
34 ACT COMPOSITE (ONE SITTING)
11 ESSAY

Dont have too many ec's and essay may be ok... ish

prolly no chance.. eh? please give me some advice..

Gyros321

I dont get. How do people do so well on the ACT and not AS well on the SAT? Anyhow I would say go for it. I dont know ur UW gpa which really matters. ACT + subject tests = good enough (but they will see the other scores too).

Make your essays very goood since you say your ec's are not that many and i am assuming not that well.

taebubu

Do not submit your SAT or SAT IIs!!

Only submit your ACT.

Percy Skivins

What was the split on the ACT? If it was more even than the SAT splits, taebubu is right.

SAT is all or nothing - if you send one score they send them all.

adf8

Yeah, I would say just submit your ACT score too. You're fine as far as scores go, but it's really difficult to tell other than that. What's your UW GPA? Class rank? At least give some idea of ECs?

jkim123

Theres no class rank.. but in freshamn year there was and i was 23 out of 600 i believe... my highschool is a tough public school with like 10 people already into top 10 schools.... im scared because i got rejected ed to cornell... but i didnt have a good ACT score then..
ECS
PEER LEADERSHIP 3 YEARS
KEY CLUB 3 YEARS
RUSH HOSPITAL VOLUNTEER (ONLY LIKE 20 HRS)
LEADER OF THE LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE FOR BYG
SERVICE CHAIR FOR NATIONAL JUNIOR HONOR SOCIETY
DIVISION REPRESENTATIVE FOR MY DIVISION FOR 2 YEARS FOR STUDENT COUNCIL
INTERNSHIP AT PEPSICO- QTG IN DOWNTOWN CHICAGO.. THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR

yoyoyo111

its not that people do better on the ACT than SAT. If you did better on the SAT than ACT, why would you bother to send your ACT score (since it is optional to send them). People who list both did better on the ACT typically and that is why they are sending the ACT. Furthermore, is you do good on ACT, ok on SAT, nad take SAT IIs, you have to show your SAT score regardless. THat is why u see more bad SAT, good ACT than vice versa

cali7802000

from my school, seemingly everyone does better on the ACT in comparison to the SAT. i have only taken the SAT but it seems to me that the ACT is easier?! similarly, all the kids that i have talked to tell me that the ACT is just easier than the SAT in almost all facets

can anyone comment on this??

Percy Skivins

cali

What you are saying is impossible - they have conversion tables that give the equivalent between sat and act (34 = 1520, etc.) and if one were "harder" than the other then it would just mean that the equivalent score would be lower (34=1500). They create these tables by comparing thousands of scores from people who have taken both, so they are reliable. Most schools will use the tables for comparison - if you send in ACT they'll convert it to sat equivalent.

cali7802000

percy, i AM referring to those conversions...at my school i have seen/heard a lot of kids getting around a 2150 on the SAT and then a month later without much studying ripping out a 33, 34, and even a 35.

i dont get it!? maybe my school somehow subconciously prepares us for the ACT better...i dont know

Percy Skivins

partly I think it is statisical thing - any random person or small group of people can do better than what the table says on one or the other even though the average conversion is higher/lower than your scores over a large group . Also ACT is more knowledge oriented while SAT is more oriented to clever mind tricks - so the tests reward different personality types. Both tests reward you for being "smart" but slightly different kinds of smart. You're not usually going to get an 2000 SAT but then suddenly a 35 ACT (or the other way) but the difference in style might be good for 100 pts on the conversion, so its not a bad idea to take both and send in the one you do better on.