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USC's academics are higher than UCLA's- Princeton Review

DJS3CADJS3CA Posts: 849- Member
Just curious, why hasn't anyone cited this before? Princeton Review is highly regarded and gave USC an 87 and UCLA an 80 in academic quality, 100 being the best. I mean they gave Berkeley a 91 and Stanford a 99. Seems pretty accurate.

Again, just curious.

USC

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Replies to: USC's academics are higher than UCLA's- Princeton Review

  • Georgia GirlGeorgia Girl Posts: 3,422Registered User Senior Member
    DJ,
    Could you copy out those ratings please?
  • DJS3CADJS3CA Posts: 849- Member
    They do not have a list of the academic ratings. You have to search for a particular college and then click the "academic tab" on the college's profile, then it will give you their academic ranking.

    However, because I am a total nerd I will copy the ratings of the TOP 50 Best Colleges according to US NEWS.

    *** Note there are different rankings for graduate schools. This is strictly for their undergraduate programs ***

    Harvard - 99
    Princeton- 98
    Yale- 96
    MIT- 97
    Stanford- 99
    Cal Tech- 87
    UPenn- 89
    Columbia- 96
    Duke- 92
    U Chicago- 97
    Dartmouth- 96
    Northwestern- 88
    Wash U STL- 95
    Cornell- 89
    Johns Hopkins- 86
    Brown- 91
    Rice- 96
    Emory- 90
    Notre Dame- 92
    Berkeley- 91
    CMU- 99
    G-Town- 92
    UVA- 98
    UCLA- 80
    U Mich- 83
    USC- 87
    Tufts- 91
    Wake Forest- 87
    UNC-Chapel Hill- 84
    Brandeis- 88
    W&M- 91
    NYU- 83
    BC- 88
    GIT- 74
    Lehigh- 87
    UCSD- 79
    Rochester- N/A
    UW-Madison- 80
    UI- 74
    Case Western- 83
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute- 79
    UW- 78
    UC Davis- 77
    UCI- 75
    UCSB- 81
    Penn State- 74
    UT- 75
    UF- 72
    Yeshiva- N/A
  • DJS3CADJS3CA Posts: 849- Member
    Vanderbilt - 92
  • madbeanmadbean Posts: 2,919Registered User Senior Member
    How do they calculate these rankings? Some seem okay, but then some seem decidedly odd, or at the very least unexpected. I would predict special programs or honors colleges within schools might reflect differences, but still.

    Jumping on the nerd train :) I'm putting them in ranking order so everyone can react!

    CMU- 99
    Harvard - 99
    Stanford- 99
    Princeton- 98
    UVA- 98
    U Chicago- 97
    MIT- 97
    Columbia- 96
    Dartmouth- 96
    Rice- 96
    Yale- 96
    Wash U STL- 95
    Duke- 92
    G-Town- 92
    Notre Dame- 92
    Vanderbilt - 92
    Berkeley- 91
    Brown- 91
    Tufts- 91
    W&M- 91
    Emory- 90
    Cornell- 89
    UPenn- 89
    BC- 88
    Brandeis- 88
    Northwestern- 88
    Cal Tech- 87
    Lehigh- 87
    USC- 87
    Wake Forest- 87
    Johns Hopkins- 86
    UNC-Chapel Hill- 84
    Case Western- 83
    U Mich- 83
    NYU- 83
    UCSB- 81
    UCLA- 80
    UW-Madison- 80
    UCSD- 79
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute- 79
    UW- 78
    UC Davis- 77
    UCI- 75
    UT- 75
    GIT- 74
    UI- 74
    Penn State- 74
    UF- 72

    Rochester- N/A
    Yeshiva- N/A
  • binks09binks09 Posts: 937Registered User Member
    this cannot be taken seriously... how can they say a school like UCSB is higher than UCLA?
  • doamedoame Posts: 333Registered User Member
    DJS3CA - Thanks for being a total nerd. Appreciate the list!
    Madbean - Thanks for being a helper nerd :)
  • doamedoame Posts: 333Registered User Member
    If you want to see the ranking criteria - go to The Princeton Review site:

    Best 368 Rankings: Academics
  • DJS3CADJS3CA Posts: 849- Member
    "Academics

    How hard students work and how much they get back for their efforts, on a scale of 60-99. This rating is calculated from student survey results and statistical information reported by administrators. Factors weighed include how many hours students study outside of the classroom and the quality of students the school attracts. We also considered students' assessments of their professors, class size, student-teacher ratio, use of teaching assistants, amount of class discussion, registration, and resources. Please note that if a school has an Academic Rating of 60*, it means that the school did not report to us a sufficient number of the statistics that go into the rating by our deadline."

    The Princeton Review's College Ratings
  • username-deletedusername-deleted Posts: 66Registered User Junior Member
    Could someone give an average academic index of private universities listed above compared to public universities. Seems to me the index is biased towards private univerisities. Do a survey of students. Typically that is biased based on grades received. Private univerisities must give higher grades (grade inflation) to help justifiy return on investment (otherwise known as tuition). So yeah, it makes sense that usc is higher than ucla...
  • Taxi1113Taxi1113 Posts: 529Registered User Member
    Weren't people posting on this forum about how USC has grade deflation? Or was that just the Marshall school?
  • DJS3CADJS3CA Posts: 849- Member
    Haha. You know what I love about Bruins? They absolutely cannot admit the truth, USC is better and will surpass them in the rankings shortly. That's why the Daily Bruin writes several articles about how they should be scared, because their public school system is deteriorating.

    USC does not have a grade inflation. Really, get with the times. USC is a strong contender who consistently improves in leading research and academics. Does USC still hold some stereotypes? Hell yeah it does, but what university doesn't?

    UCLA has been stagnate in the 25th spot for a while now. Sure, it's a great number, but what does that say about their university's progress? Furthermore, what does it say about UCLA that USC, once ranked 47th, in a very short time caught up with them? USC is an aggressive university and Bruins need to read for once and see that USC isn't inferior. Also, USC does not cook their grade books. USC is on the semester system which means we have more time, UCLA is on quarters which means you go through more material in a short amount of time. Just because we don't have midterms every week doesn't mean that our academics are sub-par.
  • fortifyfortify Posts: 1,161Registered User Senior Member
    Woah, cmu is just as good as harvard. These rankings are stupid

    If USC is so good why do you have to make stupid threads that say USC is better than UCLA
  • Columbia_StudentColumbia_Student Posts: 5,046Registered User Senior Member
  • username-deletedusername-deleted Posts: 66Registered User Junior Member
    @DJS3CA: Haha. You know what I love about Bruins? They absolutely cannot admit the truth, USC is better and will surpass them in the rankings shortly.

    I was expecting better critical reading ability from a USC student like DJS3SA (assuming you are one). Please re-read my entire post. Since when I became a Bruin? I have not mentioned anything about UCLA. I am affliated with neither UCLA nor USC.

    It is odd to see so many private universities having higher academic index per Princeton review compilation (academic index of Princeton review must be distinguished from academics of the university itself). Very few public universities show up there. Hence my question. I did not mention anything about UCLA or even USC in my post.

    In short, get a life.
  • redartredart Posts: 6Registered User New Member
    would you happen to have Pepperdine's rating?

    Thanks
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