shoe -- the kids on the corner at 2am aren't the shady ones. they're mostly just drunk uva students

try the ones outside shady grady at 2 am...
jags -- i agree that cville townie/uva students relations are strained at times -- most townies don't appreciate the added traffic and congestion that comes with the return of students to the university. After spending several summers here, I completely understand why

And of course, there are some other reasons of contention between townies and students
And I know of townies that appreciate the school being here, but wouldn't want to be called 'Hoos' -- To them, Cville is more than *just* The University