eoliver

Another question I pose is which school has the better academic reputation, and provides better jobs upon graduation. University of Michigan or University of Virginia.

eoliver

btw Penn along with any other ivy doesn't give athletic scholarships but does award financial aid based on financial status and athletic accomplishment/ability.

powderpuff

I'm glad you enjoyed your visit to UVA, eoliver. It was smart of you to visit while classes are in session so that you get a real feel for the University. UVA Grounds are indeed beautiful, aren't they? Particularly with the fall leaves...............
Best of luck in whatever your decision is

eoliver

Thnx. Does anyone know how the 2 billion dollar drop in endowment has affected the university, and in what ways. I.e. classes dropped, teachers fired, higher tuition, fees, room and board, greater student enrollment etc. And also how the university is coping with this change.

eoliver

btw im referring to uva because michigan's endowment actually went up

hazelorb

classes dropped, higher tuition, fees, room and board, greater student enrollment etc. - YES
teachers fired, - NO but there is a hiring freeze so people are leaving and they can't hire replacements or give raises (supposedly)

barboza

For jobs in NY/DC, UVA is more renowned than Michigan for sure. Are you getting a partial or full athletic scholarship? Vigilante is a great coach and the program is on the rise.

Hanna

"Ivy League like atmosphere (kids dressing up for their classes, polos, backwards hats, etc.)"

I don't think that's a good description of the Ivy League atmosphere at all. To the extent that you can generalize, you're a lot more likely to see an Ivy League kid in class in pajama pants than "dressed up." I see a lot more sweatshirts and tees than I do polo shirts.

eoliver

The style of dress is not specifically what he was referring to, but the attiitude of the school; an ivy league attitude would be one of privelege, entitlement, and superiority. Either academic superiority or by wealth and rank. Obviously not all students fit under this stereotype, but after my visit to Penn, in which I was exclusively with athletes, I could since that attitude from some students. I went to prep school up until 10th grade and being back at Penn brought all of thes memories back. One could obviously sense the disdain some students had for athletes.

eoliver

To Barboza: since I haven't commited yet, I can't tell you an exact number(and also for confidentiality reasons) but it'd be around 100%.

WuTangForeva

There are athletes (such as the international ones) who fit in and are nice to have conversations with, and then there are athletes who don't seem to have any intellectual passion for anything in particular, not even their major.