I took a look at several other posts by GR3 and I really have to wonder if his kid was even involved in the application process! Sounds like the parent(s) were WAY too involved. I would think admissions officers can spot those apps in a second and most likely why the results were what they were.......
The title of this thread ("I had a 2390 SAT and I was waitlisted") sums up both Stupefy's and GR3's misunderstanding of how a holistic admissions approach works at selective colleges. At a certain point, certainly far below 2390, SATs simply cease to matter.
Stupefy wasn't just waitlisted at U-Va. She was also waitlisted or rejected from every Ivy League school as well as Duke. Being an out of state applicant, the competition she faced to get into U-Va was at least as severe as several of the other colleges that also waitlisted her. Same goes for GR3.
Dean J, I wish you can tell us what her subjective flaws she has in her application. I know I am dreaming. Let us guess:
1) Dean J had accepted the max number of economics/business students, it takes time to cross someone and replace with Stupefy especially when he think almost everyone applied is qualified.
2) Stupefy's parents did not commit a crime and was not in jail so Stupefy did not raise her younger brother/sister so she did not overcome any obstacle.
3) Being an asian does not help either.
LOL that was funny. For the record (before, people speculated that my recommendations were my "fatal flaw"), i had already read one of them before I got my decision, and that one was excellent. After I told my other teacher that I had been slaughtered by admissions, he was very surprised and showed me his recommendation. It spoke glowingly of my writing ability (he was my engilsh teacher), my growth, and even said I was one of the best writers he had ever taught. so now I'm just as confused as you are about my results
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I do believe that the OP was fully justified in considering UVa a safety, and objectively has the finest resume I have ever seen, including that of our son, who has been offered admission as an Echols Scholar. However, narrative does matter and being Asian doesn't help (although the more interesting question is whether it hurts). The OP will matriculate next fall at one of the finest schools in the country and can look forward to a life of continued amazing accomplishment
Thank you very much and best of luck to your son!
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My kid's Princeton interviewer bluntly told that 40% of legacy admitted and some spaces are reserved due to AA, your chance is much lower than the percent which Princeton claims.
It's true that for most top schools, only 50% of the class is "open enrollment" meaning the other half is reserved for URM, legacy, athletes, URS, etc
I only had a 2060 SAT, few ECs at school, no job, no community service. And I am a Chinese international.
But I got the LL from UVA and I am an Echols Scholar. College admission is just unpredictable.
^Dean J, I know you will not comment it again on this thread. However, if you were one of the admission officer in those 'top 5-10' school, it is totally wrong for you to agree with Stupefy about '50% open enrollment' regardless of it is a fact or not. It is just politically incorrect.
I hope I did offend anyone by this especially to Dean J. If I did, please accept my apology.
My son had 2240 SATs and 4.2 GPA and was waitlisted at Lehigh. This was a bit of a shock since we thought of Lehigh as a sure bet. I was told later by a sister-in-law with three older kids that colleges sometimes put applicants with high stats on the waiting list as a test of their sincerity. I don't know if this is true but you might want to quickly mail in the card after checking "Yes" and see what happens.
This thread is a year old, but I actually expected someone to dig it up a couple weeks ago. To put it out there again, UVa does not practice yield protection.
Clearly, there was more the story, but I can't comment on it.
UVA does defer people to protect their yield, but only people who are really, really, really overqualified. Because they probably assumed that you would go to a better school and they can give the spots to others who will definitely go if admitted.
You are probably overqualified, because most of the people at my school last year who went to UVA had like 4.0s weighted (about 90th percentile in the class) and 2100s on the sat
UVA does practice OOS percentage protection. The kids I know who were accepted there (all OOS) had some major hook such as athletics, legacy (accepted at in state rates but still counted against the OOS quota), URM. Because they are limited to 1/3 OOS, the OOS pool tends to used to get wish list candidates in place that are difficult to get when one is restricted to one state.
