tenniscraze

It's not distaste, but rather disagreement towards the morality of the Greek system. Btw, what sorority are you in again?

melli

Never mentioned it, shouldn't give you more ammunition. Seems to go deeper than mere disagreement though, as you're intent on blasting anyone who remotely supports/is Greek.

tenniscraze

I see. More of that secrecy underneath what is already a superficial system?

melli

More like I'm not keen on what is relatively anonymous flaming to turn into real life annoyance. =) I'm happy to talk pros and cons of the Greek system and experiences of being in it with anyone, but why create trouble for myself by butting my head against someone so set on being opinionated?

mckin43

OK - I have just a general question - how many of the sororities have varsity athletes? My D will be on the crew team and she thinks at some point she might like to join a sorority but I doubt she will have time - thoughts?

BGjeez

I have a question as well. I plan to visit my native country during the winter break. Is it true that I will miss rush then? Someone told me rush takes place during the winter break.

melli

Rush starts the Monday before spring semester classes start -- well, it did this year at least. With the new schedule I'm not so sure. Go ahead and go home, just plan to be back a week early (gives you time to move in too) because round robins do take place the last couple days of winter break.

As for varsity athletes, I really am not sure. I've never particularly paid attention to that fact so I have no answers to offer. Sorry. =( There are sororities with outstanding intramural athletes though, if that offers any comparison. Most likely your daughter will know if she has enough time, since she'll have gone through the whole college schedule first semester. As first years can only rush in the spring semester, she'll definitely know if she has the time to spare then.

caseyatbat

mckin43--I just asked my D your question. Her house has 5 varsity athletes. Sorry-none on crew. Just tennis, lacrosse and basketball. There are also 5 gals who play at a competitive CLUB sport level--traveling etc. In fact, one of them just won some type of big (national?) award. And yes, I realize it is CLUB competition--she must be very good at what she does!
D says that the girls are involved in the sorority according to their athletic and academic obligations. Some of the girls are somewhat involved at the house, while others are very active and hold leadership positions within the sorority--it just varies from girl to girl.
D says that she has never felt undue pressure from her obligations. While not an athlete, she is involved in a time consuming service organization on the grounds. Everyone understands that academics always come first, job/sport/service duties come next, and the sorority comes in somewhere behind that. These girls are bright, active young adults who are used to shuffling and adjusting their busy schedules. Conflicts are minimized because everyone understands the order of priorities. And I do not believe that her house is exceptional in this regard.

BGjeez-for at least the last three years, Spring semester classes have begun on a Wednesday in mid January. Rush begins two days before that--on Monday. Most girls arrive back in C-ville during the weekend so that they can get moved in before Rush begins. D arrived back late Sunday afternoon--no problem.

ehiunno

tennis, whatever happened to the so called brown college ideal of respecting those around you and understanding that other may have differing opinions and choices than you. You need to take a long hard look at what you've been saying and then tell me how everything your saying isn't hypocritical. I don't like the greek system either, but I at least have respect for fellow wahoo's. You disappoint me.

UVAMalex09

Ignore Tenniscraze. By projecting his own elitist attitude on the greek system, he has reached troll levels on this thread. I am a greek and have many friends in IFC, ISC, and NPHC, and we are hardly the elitist, conceited, and self-absorbed people that fit the mold of the stereotype. I am past offended with his behavior on this thread, and something needs to happen.

tenniscraze

Please. If you're a Greek yourself, how could you try even doubting the system to which you're so attached?

And I'm even more surprised that melli feels insulted... surely there must be some truth in my posts you were trying to deny.

cganyard

Tenniscraze, do you simply disregard the comments of your fellow students? Over and over again - on this thread and many others - they've asked you put a sock in it. And yet you continue...

CC is supposed to be a place where we can all post positive and constructive comments - not a platform for your bitter anti-greek diatribe. And it's no wonder those in the greek system get defensive at your comments...how would YOU feel if someone launched into an endless attack against the Brownies? Aren't those the people with which you've chosen to live? Aren't those the friends with which you've chosen to socialize? And wouldn't you defend the decision YOU'VE made to do just that?

Sweeping generalizations - of any kind - are almost always wrong. It's one of the first lessons my husband and I taught our kids when they were growing up. Sorry you haven't learned it yet.

cganyard

Ouch, bad grammar above ^^. And I should know better. With WHOM.

cganyard

In my haste to give my unsolicited opinion, I failed to explain why we told our kids this was such an important life lesson. And the reason is as follows:

A sweeping generalization says far less about the persons being stereotyped than it does about the person doing the stereotyping.

melli

I actually reread all my posts to make sure you were wrong, and in fact you are. I never denied there was truth in your posts, refer to my post after the one you made posting that article. I just objected to your blanket statements of all Greek life -- and I fully agree with cganyard. It's absolutely unwarranted to sneer down your nose at anyone with a Greek affiliation, there are many, many decent Greeks. Ah whatever, no use beating a dead dog. Intelligent conversations anyone?

I'll start with a question for the benefit of girls rushing: did you immediately feel bonded with your pledge class on bid day?