LizMT

Ew. I knew UofA cut but I didn't they replace people???

how weird.

soozievt

If you read the U of A threads on this forum, you will read the saga of BFA freshmen who were cut (a lot were that particular year) and their slots were filled by auditioning transfers and their BA students whom they preferred over some of their own BFA students. I do not agree with the practices they employed but you can read about it on that thread/subforum.

MTDad777

Please, please, I do not have a problem with them taking transfer students, in and of itself. What I have a problem with is when we went there over the summer for a visit we were with high school juniors. Each Dept was represented at this recruiting seminar (or whatever you call it). They said that they had 12 MT spots for incoming freshman and the story completely changed while my D was there auditioning. Apparently they changed it to only 8 MT spots (4 G and 4 B) for anyone that auditions and not 12 for the freshman class like we were told. The school has the right to do what they want but I'm not sure we would have wasted the time and money to audition for a chance at 1 of 4 spots. We did send several e-mails back and forth prior to the audition and none of this was mentioned. Furthermore, the transfer students have had a year or more college training not to mention the experience of auditioning for colleges. I'm disappointed that it appears they auditioned to fill the program and not to put together a freshman class. I was under the impression that each school was auditioning so they could put together a freshman class and that some but not all schools allow transfers to audition but the transfers would be with their peers if they made the program. I would think that if a sophomore auditions that they expect them to be better than a high school senior and that if they are accepted to the program they would go in as a junior.

Fitch21

Admission to viterbo's MT program is equally competitive for transfers as well as freshman. An associate professor there recently informed me they take 8 to 10 students a year for MT. You are admitted to sophomore or junior standing based upon the credits you are transferring in. You are then placed in certain MT courses based on your credits and level of talent. With all this said....Viterbo's MT program isn't really that difficult to get into. I was informed around 60 auditioned this year on campus and through unifieds. This gives students roughly around a 13% chance of acceptance...compared to other more familiar programs, this isn't so bad. For instance, Boco had about a 6% chance of acceptance. I wish your D luck in whatever career path she chooses to pursue!

MTDad777

Fitch- She got into a much better program (in my opinion) and is waitlisted at 2 other highly competitive programs for MT. She got into the acting program at everywhere she auditioned that will take MT students into acting. Viterbo has little to no scholarship money so she would have gone with the full-ride BFA acting scholarship at another school even if she'd been offered MT there. The fact that they changed the number of spots after we wasted our time really soured us.
Regarding the 60 who auditioned, I think a guy with lesser talent can make a program as there is more competition between the girls. It was her first audition and the accompaniment was awful. She actually learned a lot from that audition especially how to mark her music. I also think that it was a disadvantage to audition early as Virtebo does not have rolling admissions. All lessons learned. To my earlier point if you are competing with transfers with the experience like you and Liz then it is even that much harder for an incoming freshman.
Did you or Liz decide yet?

soozievt

How are incoming freshmen competing against the transfers at this school if I understand it correctly that these transfer students are NOT entering as freshmen and are therefore NOT taking any freshmen slots. I may be misunderstanding?

LizMT

I will be attending Viterbo.

The only thing that would change it is if I get into Roosevelt, with a bigger scholarship.

Thanks for the ego boost, guys.... I was really excited.

SEATA

Liz MT,

You can't let anyone else change your feelings, or mess with your confidence. When my D and I were at the unifieds in Chicago, we had the chance to see Jersey Boys. My D was able to meet a few of the performers afterwards. The best advice they gave her was that it isn't the program; it's the person and the desire to work hard that really matters in the business. Sure, there will always be one program that is deemed better than another, but Viterbo is a good school. Feel good about yourself; you are a strong young lady who knows what she wants and is going for it. Don't let anyone deter your enthusiasm. You go girl!!!

And one final note... there are a lot of performers who have strong careers who never even went to college.

You_yesxyoui

Liz MT,
when i was reading this i was really ****ed off for your sake and mine, seeing that Viterbo was my second choice and i was seriously excited for it, honestly im sick of hearing about "top schools" Boco and Umich can blow it out their...well you get where im going with this.
The point is youre motivated, which isnt what you can say about half these kids who have never worked a real day in their life. So go ahead they can have their 40k year schools, we will take the motivation.
Rock on!
(no 'fense Boco or Umich kids)

soozievt

You_yesxyoui......I am excited for you and Liz about your upcoming schools!

Please do not generalize that kids who attend "top schools" or "40K" schools have never worked a real day in their life, or are not as motivated. Sorry, but that is a gross and untrue generalization. For example, my own kid attends a very expensive MT program that is well known and is on financial aid and she also has worked and continues to earn money and is very motivated. I am excited for ANY student who is going to enter ANY college. I don't see the need for putting down or generalizing any sorts of colleges or any sorts of students who attend them.

MTDad777

LizMT, I didn't mean to imply (and it sounds like I did when I re-read my post) that Viterbo is not a good school or even a top school. It was on our original list of 4 schools which subsequently changed to 8. We were just a little discussted with the number of spots changing from the time we visited over the summer and the time she auditioned. There is a girl that graduated from there that went to my D's high school and is working on Broadway. I'll post her name when I get a chance to ask my D but my point is that this is a good program and you should be excited!
You_yesxyoui - there certainly are a bunch of spoiled brats out there but there are many that aren't as well. I certainly feel the same sense of snobery when others post about the top schools but I think some parents are just really proud of their kids and while I'm sure there are some snobs out there most are probably down to earth hard working people.

You_yesxyoui

im not saying that everyone is like that, maybe i just happen to meet them ALL

LizMT

I am still excited. I just felt a little hurt when the school was attacked. There is such an emphasis on who got into what school and people base their opinions on how talented people are because of what school they are going to. Personally, I find that ridiculous. Some of the most talented people I know are going to JCs and state schools that are not BoCo or NYU or Michigan. There is nothing wrong with that.

Personally, I plan to be the new big name that puts Viterbo on the map...

soozievt

Liz...you go girl!

LizMT

Thanks, sooz.