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Old 10-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #1
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Chances for ivy league

Will 32 ACT hurt me when applying to ivy leagues? I noticed that most have an average of 32, except Princeton Harvard and Yale. Would a 33 help me much more? I have a 34 super scored and while I know they don't change composite, some colleges like Upenn do look at other subscores.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:55 AM   #2
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And please don't bring up legacies scewing the average.... legacies only make up for 15% of the class.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:05 AM   #3
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:27 AM   #4
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There are other factors that skew the data. Add up legacies, URM'S, Athletes, and other hooked students and you have a portion of the student body large enough to really mess with the numbers. It's not like it's impossible for you to get in though, there is always a chance.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:30 AM   #5
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But will it really hurt my chances of getting into the schools?
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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A higher score always increases your chances, but if your grades and EC's are good then you will still have a shot.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:47 AM   #7
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:49 AM   #8
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Test scores don't matter as much as people on this website think they do.. Your 32 is fine, and your 34 superscore is even better
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:57 AM   #9
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Judging from the amount of kids in my school that get into the Ivies, the fact that my grandfather is a retired professor from Harvard, and that my SAT tutor is a Harvard grad who worked in the admissions office for a decade, your standardized test scores don't really mean much.

The majority of the kids who have a realistic chance of being accepted into Ivies all have nearly perfect standardized test scores, a 4.0 UW GPA and have taken the hardest courses available to them.

What really makes you stand out are your ECs.

A friend of mine started his own business and that was how he was accepted into Princeton. He had a 3.6 GPA and a 2040 SAT score, and still got in. If you do something insanely great outside of school, that says a lot more than doing well in school.

A kid from my school was waitlisted and then later rejected from Harvard. He had a 2390 SAT score, a 3.8 UW GPA, but took the max amount of AP courses (11). Scored a 4-5 on all of them. He got 750s-800s on 6 different SAT IIs (Bio, Chem, Physics, Math II, World History and US History). His father went to Harvard and his sister currently attends Harvard. I'm guessing that his scores are a lot better than yours, and he still didn't get in, even with legacy. Scores aren't everything.
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Thank you. I don't want to give out any information about my ECs because they are unique and I could easily be identified, but I really appreciate your feedback.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #11
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You're welcome! Also, if you have immediate connections with faculty members, that could really help you. I've been asked several times if I want to go to Harvard from my tutor and my grandfather, but I constantly respond with no. I know that they could get me in easily, but I wouldn't do well there and it's not my place. But just to give you an idea of how someone with lower than average grades can be accepted into an Ivy with the right connections haha
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