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Old 09-19-2007, 10:42 PM   #1
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International student needing aid -- chances at Yale SCEA?

Hello. I am a Malaysian and a year-two, i.e. 12th grade, student at a junior college in Singapore under a Singaporean government scholarship. I wonder what my chances are, assuming that I'll be applying for financial aid.

SAT I: 2,310, essay 12 (took it once and not retaking anymore; wise?)
SAT II: taking in October

+Year one (i.e. 11th grade) "transcript":
>> General Paper A
>> History A
>> Biology A
>> Chemistry A
>> Mathematics A
That makes me the only straight-A student in my class of about 30, placing me at at least top 5% of a cohort of 1,200+

+Year two (i.e. 12th grade) most recent "transcript":
>> General Paper A (percentile: 96.9)
>> History A (percentile: 98.3)
>> Biology A (percentile: 94.1)
>> Chemistry A (percentile: 96.0)
>> Mathematics A (percentile: 95.7)
That puts me on the Dean's List (not a big deal though)

+Topped my secondary school in secondary 4 (i.e. 10th grade): 1/200+
>>Topped Biology, English, History, Malay; got A1s for everything else

+One of 40 top students nationwide for the GCE O Level national examination in 2005; had press and media interviews for that

+Highest award (gold) in the National Chemistry Olympiad in 2006; top 10 nation-wide
+Distinction award in the Nanyang Technological University Chemistry Concept Competition in 2007
+First place in intra-college chemistry competition in 2006

+High distinction award (highest award) for Australian Mathematics Competition in 2005
+Taking an undergraduate module (molecular genetics) at the National university of Singapore, as part of a "heaviest" workload
+Qualified for the National Biology Olympiad in 2006 and National Mathematics Olympiad in 2004

+School wushu team 2006-2007, participated in the National Wushu Championships and won two bronzes
+Quartermaster of wushu club (2006-2007)
+Various wushu performances in public places
+Talent-spotted for national wushu team, which I had to reject due to an injury
+Our school won 2nd place at national level

+Choir (2004-2005); we won the Gold award in the National Youth Festival judging

+One-month work attachment with the Disabled Peoples' Association (kick-ass letter of recommendation from here)
+Part of the organizing committee for the International Day of Disabled Persons 2006

+Week-long attachment at the Singapore Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology
+Year-long commitment, teaching 10th graders once weekly
+Class President (2001-2003)
+Regular blood donor (5 times)
+ABRSM grade 8 (piano), Yamaha grade 5 (piano) diploma, which makes me qualified to teach at Yamaha Music School

I'm afraid that's all I have for my extra-curriculars, which I concede are inadequate. I'm looking at possibly chemical engineering (need to take some physics courses). I would need some form of financial aid from the schools, so it might really affect my chances, I don't know. These are the schools I'm considering:

Middlebury
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins
Cornell
Williams (might drop Yale SCEA and ED here, if my chances at Yale are crap)
Harvard (applying for the hell of it)
Yale (SCEA, first-choice school)

I don't have any safeties yet, so if anyone knows of any safety school which are lenient to international aid-applicants, do tell

My recommendations should be outstanding and my essays are pretty good (full with Asian flavour and a very personal voice).

Thank you!
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Old 09-22-2007, 10:09 AM   #2
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Bump? Hope to hear some replies...
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:40 AM   #3
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I don't know why anyone might wanna reject you

But you definitely need atleast a couple of safeties
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:43 AM   #4
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Do you need a full ride? Then remove JHU and Northwestern from the list.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:07 PM   #5
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Might I suggest MIT (since you seem interested in bio)?

As difficult as hell to get into for an intl, but need-blind...
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:13 PM   #6
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ajayc: I don't exactly need a full-ride, but something close like 80 percent. Do Northwestern and Johns Hopkins offer aid generously to internationals?
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:36 PM   #7
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Id say apply williams ED

you have a much better chance to get accepted there than yale, and they give great financial aid compared to many liberal arts colleges
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:36 PM   #8
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Middlebury-Safety
Northwestern-Safety
Johns Hopkins-Match
Cornell-Match
Williams-Match
Harvard (applying for the hell of it)-Reach
Yale (SCEA, first-choice school)-Reach
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:13 PM   #9
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Mid/NU have had higher SAT averages than JHU/Cornell; I'd put them all in the same category. According to two articles I read, NU's avg SAT is now 1423 for the enrolled students (1463 for admitted ones).
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:15 PM   #10
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Agreed ^. All the same SAT score almost or at least in the same ballpark.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:00 PM   #11
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mayiplzgovertigo: Thanks for the advice. How much does ED affect my chances with Williams, compared to if I applied via RD? I know there was a site which shows the ED acceptance rates vs. the RD acceptance rate; does anyone has the link?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:49 PM   #12
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Bump? Anyone can help me out here?
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:25 AM   #13
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Bump again...
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:25 AM   #14
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i think ur competitive for all, meaning you would gain admission.. but as an international, i think you would have trouble getting fin. aid. Sad but true.
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:09 AM   #15
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Wow, you have a great resume, clearly very well rounded. As good a chance as anyone to get into the elite schools on your list.

Middlebury-Safety
Northwestern-Safety
Johns Hopkins-Match/Safety
Cornell-Safety
Williams-Match
Harvard (applying for the hell of it)-Reach
Yale (SCEA, first-choice school)-Reach

As for the SAT retake, it depends on your score distribution and whether you felt that you scored far lower than usual for a particular section of the test.
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