Flippy

^LMAO are you kidding me?

Brown and Dartmouth more selective than Penn?

Brown and Dartmouth near COLUMBIA?

You realize Columbia College has the lowest acceptance rate in the country (7% RD - excluding Columbia's Fu Foundation for Engineers) AND THAT'S WITHOUT USING COMMONAPP?

And you think just because their acceptance rates are lower, Brown and Dartmouth are more selective? So I guess Duke is about as selective as UCLA right? And Brown and Dartmouth are BOTH more selective than Caltech?

treefarmer1

First, you look like a very bright, talented candidate, but as the parent of two kids who recently went thru the process, I'm going to be a little less optimistic. Your numbers are great, and get the door open, but you'll need to get the adcom's attention (essay in particular) to be heard. Many posters, like myself, wish to be supportive, but being realistic can appear harsh.

HYP-big reach, but go for it if you really want it
Columbia, Dartmouth (mid Ivys)-reach
I can't judge the med programs.(even though I'm an MD)
All others are in the match range, which is no shoo-in at this level, but I think acceptance(s) in the group are likely if you present yourself well. Have you considered top 20 LACs which have high med school acceptance rates?

Best of luck

treefarmer1

Duke and Brown also in the reach group.

slipper1234

Flippy,

Where are you forming your opinions? You cite accept rate as a reason for Columbia's selectivity, yet you discount it when positioning B/D vs. Duke/Penn. Make up your mind.

Brown and Dartmouth (Dartmouth particularly) are much more self-selective than Penn and Columbia which draw tons of Tri-state area applications. If you live in NYC (and maybe SoCal which tends to have an interest in NYC too for some reason) then there is a difference, but overall around the nation there isn't one. Also, Columbia and Pen take a huge percentage of their classes ED, which helps with a lower RD rate. Dartmouth's RD is about 11%, but remember only about a third of its class is ED which the admissions office thinks is fair.

Columbia has lower SAT scores than Dartmouth (by a wide margin) and is about the same as Brown. How can you argue its much more selective? Ane PENN???? Penn loses to Dartmouth in almost every selectivity metric including accept rate and SAT scores. Only in perhaps SoCal and NYC are Columbia and Penn more selective than Dartmouth, in the rest of the country I would argue the opposite.

Flippy

Yeah actually I agree with you now.

Wth, why is UPenn so much easier to get into? Weird.

slipper1234

Not so much easier, its about the same. Each one of these schools has their on preferences and quirks. Totally depends what type of applicant you are. I've seen Penn is easier ED than RD by a wide margin and gets tons of NYC apps. If you are a RD Penn app from the Tri-state area its incredibly difficult. On the other hand if you are an ED applicant from Georgia for example, its going to be very difficult, but less difficult.

wpolo8

you might as well put your ethnicity- i'm sure they can all tell because of your Korean SAT II score.

babeexphat

uhm whats a weak match and a strong match !! ahhh