Philovitist

14%???? That's amazing. My math used 9%. So the numbers should be a lot higher. I'll do the math again later.

From JBHE: The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test
I can't find stats identifying who did well on both sections, which annoys me. But given this pool, and then just thinking of how much of this pool decided to apply SCEA to Yale...I feel good.

Also:
700s are a bit less competitive (read as rare). Instead of about at most 600 people, you have at most 2240 people. 1800 if you leave out the 750ers.

ccuser95

Does anyone know the early stats for Stanford this year?

Philovitist

Not out yet.

ccuser95

Thanks. Stanford will post on its website when it's out?

Philovitist

Sure. I would keep google news searching "stanford early decision".

YaleGradandDad

I suspect that the Questbridge applicants may not be included in the SCEA total since they are coded as regular decision applicants to alumni interviewers. It is only through a special "heads up" notification from new Haven that we know they are on a tighter timeline for interviewing than typical regular decision applicants. In my area the Questbridge applicants were about 1/8 the number of SCEA applicants.

lacrossemom

I think that the #of questbridge included is 22.

T26E4

Questbridge: It must be more than 22. My area alone has six of whom two I have interviewed.

Philovitist

I can't find that 14% stat. Maybe he was talking about the wholr school, not a particular Class?

2016 had 9.5
http://admissions.yale.edu/node/2040/attachment

lacrossemom

Here is where I saw the 22 number...

How many students will be matched with Yale?
Frequently Asked Questions - QuestBridge Program | Yale College Admissions

The number of Yale matches depends on the strength of individual applications, and therefore varies from year to year. Historically, Yale has matched with 17–22 students each year through the College Match Process. Yale has also admitted between 50–75 additional QuestBridge Finalists through the Regular Decision application process each year of our partnership. All admitted applicants receive financial aid to meet their demonstrated financial need.

Youdon'tsay

The number for 2011 for QB was 16.

I wish I knew the number of Hispanics who scored 750+ on the verbal and math. Except, if I did, I might regret that ds didn't apply to Yale SCEA.

StudiousMaximus

It appears that gibby's analysis assumes that *every* URM/legacy who applies gets in, and I highly doubt that that's the case. I think you'd have to subtract a larger number from the applicant pool to compensate for rejected URMs/legacies--maybe around 300?

lacrossemom

Here is the Hispanic link that ACT published. Page 12 breaks out the numbers. 945 students 32+; 580 33+
http://www.act.org/newsroom/data/201...e/Hispanic.pdf

In terms of AA students, here is how I have tried to solve for number based upon everyone's comments.

4514 700 15.5%
177 athletes
523
16 Questbridge 2011 (what is % of URM?)
507
81 AA students assuming 20% acceptance of 406 applications

DolphinBoy

Let me apologize in advance for the lack of sources––I'm having zero luck with Google today

I think Gibby's original math had a small (huge?) miscalculation. Only about 20 QuestBridge applicants will be accepted, yes, but many, many, many more will apply. So I guess the actual problem comes down to: does QuestBridge get counted in this 4514 applications for Early Action, or does it get counted in it's own category (or even RD)?

Because QB selected ~47% of applicants as finalists this year (out of about 8,000 applicants), there is a substantial amount of College Match applicants to big-name schools. Even if there were only a small percentage of those finalists applying through QB to Yale (say 10-15%), that would be about 376-564 more applications for review.

As Yale is one of the 4 (out of ~33) colleges in the National College Match which is not a binding college, it is a hugely attractive school to apply to through QB (take this with a grain of salt, because it's a vague memory, but I remember reading that as many as 60% of QB Finalists will rank Yale or one of the other three non-binding colleges).

If you take this factor into consideration, (figuring a middle-of-the-road 45% of finalists will apply to Yale), you get about 1692 QB applicants to Yale. This means the total amount of (non-QB) Early Applications to Yale is 2,822.

That is, unless QB is not counted at all in the SCEA admissions process.

I feel like this kind of throws a wrench into the math being done here... sorry haha. My math may be far from correct, but it should still be taken into consideration, as it was completely omitted before. If anyone has any for-realz data or sources about this, feel free to correct me.

gibby

Originally, I had assumed 177 recruited athletes and 177 "other hooked" applicants in the SCEA round. Those "other hooked" applicants included legacies, URM's, developmental cases and QB applicants.

If 10% of the accepted class (SCEA and RD combined) is a legacy, that would be about 130 students in total. I'm not sure how many of those apply SCEA, but I would think it would be between 50% and 75%. If I'm correct, legacy's account for at least half of the 177 "other hooked" applicants.

Then you have to make a guess at URM's in the SCEA round. I'm not sure how many that would be, but it could account for another quarter to half of the "other unhooked" applicants.