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Old 05-10-2008, 07:58 PM   #1
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EA or RD for URM?

Im A URM-Full 100% Colombian with a last name of castro, grew up in a barrio, but now go to a decent public school

My Freshman and Sophomore grades were straight As in all clases with the highest rigor possible.

Junior year didn't go so well. About 3 B 1 C+ and 3 A

My course load

AP CAlc BC
AP Economics
AP English
AP Italian
AP Govt and Politics
Honors(highest) Physics
Honors(highest) US History

This Summer I am taking several classes at LSU distance learning

Multivariate Calculus
Differential Equations
Linear Algebra
First Year Latin
Introduction to International Politics
Advanced English composition with an emphasis in argumentative writing

I am getting a job to fund these classes at 300 a pop
Please assume I get all As

Senior year coarseload, Please Assume I get all As;

AP Chem
AP European History
AP Art History
AP Spanish
AP US History
AP English World Literature

Concurrent to classes at local Community College

These include

Urban Economics
Urban Politics

ECs are decent:

Top 12 finisher in state DECA for 2 years,
President of Local DECA
Candidate for DECA STATE President, two person election in which I was robbed
Model UN 2 years

Now heres the question:

Should I apply EA or RD? Thank you to all in advance
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:01 PM   #2
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btw....please assume my SAT I is a 2300+

With SAT II of 800 US History
800 Physics
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:03 PM   #3
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oh and as far as AP exams go

4 5s and 1 4
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:32 PM   #4
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hmmm

Is it necessary to take SIX classes and to dedicate all your time to studying and working long hours to pay for them?

I think that colleges only care about academics to a certain extent - to see whether you can handle the worldload and to see if you have challenged yourself. I think that even without those classes you have the potential to demonstrate your academic capability (though, it may be a little more difficult because of your plethora of B's/C).

You do have being a URM on your side, but I doubt that it will compensate for your lack of substantial ECs. Perhaps it might benefit you more to focus on what you like to do -- be it marketing (that's what DECA is about correct?) or Politics (to build upon your MUN experience).

That said, I would actually apply RD if I were you. If you really take the effort to build your extracurriculars, it will take you at least until december (far past the EA deadline).

Hope this helps...?
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:42 PM   #5
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The latin is probably getting cut out lol And the Linear Algebra and Differential Equations is one class. But I see your point.

I know my EC's are rather weak. Im also a Lincoln Douglass Debater and Extemporaneous Debater. But yes I will try and develop them.

Another reason I am leaning to RD is that

Im hoping my mid year report of Senior year could soften the bitterness left in the mouths of the Adcoms after seeing my Junior year grades.
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:45 PM   #6
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But I hear most URMs are accepted EA
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:59 PM   #7
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Personally, I prefer the use of the word 'myriad' rather than your use of 'plethora', eating food.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:03 PM   #8
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those are pretty harsh words.

Considering my straight A's Freshman and Sophomore year

and assumed Straight A's in Senior year and summer school

I think it is a tad unfair to label the number of Bs I received as a myriad

there only 3 and while a C+ is bad its only one
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:04 PM   #9
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YourFired: most URMs who are accepted don't get B's and Cs. And whats with you and "assum[ing]" things like your SAT results and the like? Do you have actual results, or is it it something else?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:10 PM   #10
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^ 3 B's have never killed an applicant. The C will hurt, but it's certainly not a deal-breaker.

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With SAT II of 800 US History
800 Physics
Op, are these assumed scores?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:20 PM   #11
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yes both those scores are assumed, however,
There more like preconditions. Like if I get these scores, should I apply EA or RD.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:23 PM   #12
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by the way, the C would be in Physics.

So would the 800 counteract the C?

Its definitely not a C because of lack of prowess, its just I went through some major psychological turmoil during junior year and my grades suffered.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:14 PM   #13
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Back to your EA or RD question: why should anyone apply EA? If they are fairly certain that Y would be their first choice and they feel the strength of their profile doesn't need 1st semester senior year grades. However since Yale is SCEA, you'll give up your chance to apply to other colleges EA or ED.

Whatever your eventual academic performance, good luck to you.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:44 AM   #14
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I would apply SCEA if I were you. I really cannot see any way that Y would reject you, assuming you eventually get a 2300 +. Your summer course selection is fantastic, esp. bc. you are taking linear/diff EQ to supplement your obvious passion in politics/business.

I would be very, very surprised if you weren't accepted to Yale.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:09 PM   #15
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While you have many attributes of a viable candidate and you should definitely apply, I would take CNI's praises with a grain of salt. Practically NO ONE has an assumed spot into Yale college. He/she does not know you and what strengths/weaknesses you can present to Y's admissions office.

"I really cannot see any way that Y would reject you" is too bold a statement to make and certainly cannot be assumed to be more than just well-wishes.

Like I said earlier, best of luck to you.
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