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Old 06-10-2009, 10:11 PM   #1
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queer life @ yale

One of the pluses for me when I think of Yale is that it's known as the most liberal ivy and sometimes the "gay ivy." But what exactly is the queer life like? More specifically, the dating/relationship/hook-up scene and coming out? Is it very different from most of the other ivies, or is it just an exaggerated stereotype?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:15 PM   #2
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Literally everyone at Yale is gay. Literally.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:05 AM   #3
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Not "literally," but Yale is extremely tolerant and it is probably very very easy to date and hook-up, although I can't speak from experience there.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:27 AM   #4
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I can't speak from personal experience, but both my spouse and I had gay roommates, so I can give some insight. There is some homophobia at Yale, but it's pretty limited. Open homophobia is considered very declasse. There were a couple of openly gay men in jocky fraternities while I was at Yale, so I think that speaks to the level of acceptance. The vast, vast majority of students could care less if you're gay. My gay friends feel that Yale wasn't the real world, but a much cozier, friendlier cocoon. Coming out was a non-issue for them in terms of people on campus. Gay and straight friends will sit around in the dining halls and discuss their love lives, embarassing hook ups, etc. and everyone is comfortable and cool. There are events sponsored by gay campus groups, but people tend to integrate socially--most parties, most social circles, etc. are "mixed".

The LGBT Co-op dances were huge when I was at Yale. The gay community got a little grouchy because it was their party and straight people were sometimes the majority of people attending because they were so much fun.

In terms of dating, it was the same as for the hets. Some people hook up a lot. Some people were in multi-year relationships. Some people wanted to hook up, didn't, and were frustrated. Some people wanted to be in a serious relationship, but never found the right person and pined away for that experience.


As a straight person with numerous gay and lesbian friends (some insight, but I haven't lived it), this article struck me as pretty on point: Rolling Stone - To Be Gay at Yale. The chat room stuff was not in existence in my era, so I can't comment on that, but everything else sounds pretty true.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:34 AM   #5
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Literally everyone at Yale is gay. Literally.
Says a future Yalie...
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:30 AM   #6
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One of the pluses for me when I think of Yale is that it's known as the most liberal ivy...
I thought that was Brown...no?
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:30 AM   #7
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First of all, LOVED that article. Though I'm kind of curious what counts as a "strictly gay situation." XD

I'll just give you my personal impression from a talk with come Co-op members: if you're a gay male, great! You're probably set for whatever you want, dating-wise. Queer women, on the other hand... there are supposedly a lot on campus, but they are "not the type who show up to Co-op events," so you may have to look a bit harder. :P
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:22 AM   #8
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Thanks for the replies! And some more questions:
Are most people who are "out" at Yale come to campus having already come out?
Or do many who have not told anyone come to campus acting like they're already out?
Or do most just come out sometime during their years?

Also, are most "out" people out to only the Yale community/their friends or to their family as well? Is it very difficult to only be out to your friends but not your family?
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:43 AM   #9
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"Do most...? Do many...?"

You're asking for big generalizations. Like AA said, the whole spectrum exists. Are you an admittee or are you looking to apply? If the former, then know that since the community there has depth, you'll probably be able to bounce your concerns with others who have or are having to ask the same questions you're asking.

Best of luck to you
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:52 AM   #10
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This what I picked up talking to some gay friends I made while on a random visit to Yale:

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Are most people who are "out" at Yale come to campus having already come out?
No. Most people come out when they're there. And even more don't "officially" come out, but hook up anyway.

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Or do many who have not told anyone come to campus acting like they're already out?
This is also a popular option.

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Also, are most "out" people out to only the Yale community/their friends or to their family as well?
Most of the people who are "out" on campus are not out to their parents/don't want to be.

I agree in that the entire spectrum exists.
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From what I observed, most people came out sophomore or junior year after exploring their feelings safely for the first time freshman year on campus. They finally mustered up the courage to hook up with (that phrase does NOT necessarily imply sex) someone (or a few someones) of the same sex, it confirmed what they knew in their hearts, and then they came out to friends. All of my gay and lesbian friends but one were out to their families, although many times not grandparents. I also had friends who were not out until after college graduation, so there were some people who college was not the right time for it, even at Yale.

I'll also say that there is a generational difference because homosexuality was not nearly as open in society at large when I was in high school and college and almost no one would have been out in high school, which is clearly no the case today. I'd still wager that most people at Yale come out in college as opposed to having been out in high school. I am very surprised to hear eating food say that people aren't out to their parents because I'd think parents would be more understanding now than in my day. Perhaps eating food talked to underclassmen. Many of my gay and lesbian friends were out at Yale for 6 months or so, getting comfortable in their new skins, before they told their families. As an aside, NONE of the parents were surprised when they heard the news and many had a "duh" response (but nicer).
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:10 PM   #12
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... I think I might look at Yale a bit more now...
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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one in two, maybe you
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:46 PM   #14
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one in one, no more legacies.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:28 PM   #15
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i was gonna apply for transfer next year...now yale's crossed out of the list.
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