You are worrying too much about tests. Unless you have a really good reason for the GPA, and your E.C. are more than just check boxes, I'd rule Yale out. I mean, obviously there are extenuating circumstances for a lack of E.C. or less than stellar grades, but unless you have one, you should focus on another school. I know this may sound very harsh, but at the same time I'm just trying to be realistic. Please don't feel like I'm attacking you.
BTW, what grade are you in? You didn't mention this. I ask because some people look to get chanced before they're ready.
Oh, I'm a senior now. So yeah, I should hope I'm ready, haha. I understand, but what do you mean by "check boxes"? Everyone keeps saying that, and I don't know why. I would never participate in an activity unless I'm in love with it, and that's why I don't have that many... so can you clarify?
Also, I'd like to put it out there that I know Yale is a reach, and it's not my life goal to go there, I was just wondering if I had any chance at all.
I would never participate in an activity unless I'm in love with it, and that's why I don't have that many... so can you clarify?
The thing is, piano, there are many many people that join multitudes of clubs just so they can "check off" that they did this and that on their application. A good portion of those people even did their clubs/EC's for all four years of highschool! Colleges know this happens.
So how are they going to discern between your passionate potpourri of activities and those "check boxes" of the resume padders?
Since you don't demonstrate a specific interest from such a diverse selection of activities, your list alone doesn't seem to convey much passion. If you're truly passionate about all your activities, you should show them you're more than a resume padder through your essays, awards, etc.
I agree with the majority of the posters, though. None of the objective measures (test scores, transcript, rank, etc.) you've shown us stand out; most of them are average or below for Yale. The GPA, especially, is on the low end. I'm not chancing you, I'm just stating this as fact.
But please, don't be discouraged: The only way to have no chance at all is if you don't apply!
Last edited by keellota; 08-19-2010 at 08:01 PM.
Reason: needed a more amiable tone, :)
Yus yus yus. I understand, but I'm just not sure that I'm so heavily invested in going to Yale that I ought to pay $75 for the application fee. I wish it was free :[ Alas, it is not. Anyway, I intend to make sure that colleges know how passionate I am about my activities. That is what the essay/short answer is for, is it not? That's why I hate just listing everything I do. People don't get to see that I actually like doing it and assume I'm a resume builder. (Even though there's not much built, considering my list, lol)
I suggest you get on the results thread for last year at Yale and chance yourself by comparing your accomplishments with the people who either got in or did not. Much as I wish I could tell you otherwise, I think your credentials resemble the people who were not accepted (which is also what silverturtle told you.)
just saying, was I the only person who thought that the whgole 17/18th century self studied Tin whistle thing was totally cool??? I mean, it may be that I'm another music obsessed freak but still...that's NOT box checking, maybe there weren't too many extracurriculars avaiblable? That aside, chances aren't high for most of us who apply, but then again, my gpa UW wasn't much higher...and I was competing against all those smart east coast asians Piano, if you really want to apply, see if you can get a fee waiver, mine took no trouble at all
haha, thanks! the tin whistle isn't exactly impressive as far as difficulty goes, but I gotta say, I play a mean sailor's jig.
hmm i should look into that fee waiver thing. I wasn't going to because I didn't think I had a chance for it, but hey, it can't hurt to try.
Yeah, does anyone know what you have to do to get free waivers? I mean, I'm totally willing to pay, but the sheer number of schools (about 10) is quite a lot, and if it's okay, I'd like to get a waiver for at least a few of them
That's not exactly what he meant to say, I'm sure. I'm guessing he used some kind of program or application (like silverturtle's program) to "chance" said student. These programs, in my opinion, are a fairly decent estimate as to how well you fit the profile of a typical student, not necessarily an accurate representation of if the student will get in.
It's not my full resume, just the basics. As far as percentages go, actual programs give me about a 56% with my full resume. Computer programs are probably pretty accurate, but who knows? With Ivy Leagues, it's such a guessing game.