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When Do Coaches Offer Official Visits?


Replies to: When Do Coaches Offer Official Visits?

  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    In my experience, Likely Letters are almost always honored. There are exceptions (e.g. the athlete has an injury, etc.), but they are generally solid. That said, coaches will often lead recruits on as long as possible before a Likely Letter is issued. It is important that a recruit ask very direct questions coming off an OV as to where he or she ranks in terms of a coach's support with the ADCOM. You can always ask to speak with the ADCOM's liaison to the athletic department to get a second perspective.

    Remember too that Lkely Letters are often only given after a recruit has verbally committed to applying ED/EA. It is an interesting game of musical chairs that can sometimes leave a recruit without a chair. Strategic gamemanship is required.
  • riverrunnerriverrunner Registered User Posts: 2,715 Senior Member
    Yes, Oldscarecrow. Agreeing to accept a likely letter is a commitment to attend by the athlete, in almost all cases. CC has documented only one exception lately (offered LLs with no strings attached) and that was for an athlete who was in the top few prospects in the country and had grades and stats to match. Coaches can't have more promises of admission floating around than they will actually be allowed to recruit to the team.
  • FrancoisVFrancoisV Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    Historian - have enjoyed following along. Hope your Penn visit solidifies things for you. Curious as to when your OV's are scheduled (with Penn or others.) Sept.? Oct.? Good luck on the erg!
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    From a reading of his posts, I believe that Historian has one scheduled OV -- Penn.

    Columbia and Dartmouth coaches have requested better erg times and/or higher SAT scores before committing to an OV.

    For sense of what Greg Myhr at Penn is looking for see last year's recruited class. There are a bunch of big guys joining the squad.

    Heavyweight Rowing Announces Recruiting Class - PennAthletics.com—The Official Website of University of Pennsylvania Athletics
  • thehistorian421thehistorian421 Registered User Posts: 54 Junior Member
    I've expressed consistent, top-priority interest in Penn for months now. I believe asking about likely letters at my interview/unofficial visit effectively took the next step in showing my seriousness about Penn. My OV is scheduled for the weekend of September 16-18. The coaches told me that that was the first weekend of practice, and that things might be a bit hectic because of the number of potential walk-ons. Will being elected team captain change my prospects much?
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    Captainships are typically awarded to the strongest rower(s) who also demonstrate leadership qualities. To the extent this characterizes you, it is helpful.

    Getting your ERG time below 6:30 is the most important thing you can do at this point.
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member

    What are dates of your ERGs? When did you pull the 6:34? Coaches will want to see a pattern of improvement. It gives them a sense of your potential.

    Getting a sub-6:30 is possible to do by the end of September. If you can do this, it will increase the odds that Myhr will go to bat for you with the ADCOM.

    Pulliing a sub-6:30 with your frame would be impressive. It would also show persistence and hard work.
  • FrancoisVFrancoisV Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    OldScarecrow - for Historian to shave 4+ seconds off PR, what, in your experience, is his best bet in terms of preparation? How many 2ks should he attempt within the next 30 days? With the rowers you've coached in the past, what type(s) of workouts would benefit Historian the most to help him shave time within a calendar month?
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    Focus all energy on ERGing just one more time.

    Over the next 30 days:

    1. Build up quadracep muscles by doing leg lifts and squats every other day, slowing adding more weight. Focus on getting the form of these exercises right

    2. Also build up the lats, they are among the biggest muscles in the body

    3. Alternate long runs at a quick pace to build up cardio with sprints. Sprint a mile twice a week.

    4. If the OP is in Boston, do at least one 'stadium' a week; two if possible

    5. Ensure that protein intake is sufficient to build muscle mass. Eat 5-6 times a day.

    6. Work with a coach who knows you well to advise on proper ERG technique

    7. Target a day when you think you'll be feeing well, get a good night sleep the night before

    8. On ERG day, exfoliate thoroughly to increase the body's ability to sweat efficiently, wear spandex shorts and make sure that your shoes are not tied too tight.

    9. Do a power ten every 500 meters. Pull like your 'ffing life depended on it

    10. Bump up the pace with 500 meters to go. When you have just 200 meters to go, pull as hard as you can. Each stroke is about 10 meters, so the 200 meter mark is your last twenty strokes.

    Good luck.
  • 3xboys3xboys Registered User Posts: 319 Member
    Excellent advice. I know a kid who just dropped 5 seconds. He trained for 6 weeks this summer, 10 workouts a week. 1 million meters. A coach he had been trying to contact but who had basically not responded until then, wrote after hearing the new PR and said something to the effect of "your new time will get you a lot more interest from coaches. And it should!"

    Work hard. Good luck. It can be done.
  • PureVisionPureVision Registered User Posts: 39 Junior Member
    Another tip:

    Of course it depends on the individual, but for most people getting a PB on your own is really difficult.

    Get a group of guys together who have similar or faster ergs than you and test together so you push each other.

    When school starts again the testing environment may help as well.
  • 3xboys3xboys Registered User Posts: 319 Member
    Agreed, PureVision, about how hard it is to do on your own but at least where we live, the fall is all about the 6K.
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    Agree with PureVision. Use a good coxswain too, if you can.
  • FrancoisVFrancoisV Registered User Posts: 41 Junior Member
    Great answer OldScarecrow. A lot of kids can benefit from having a concrete plan to implement. So you would advise that Historian not erg until he's ready for one more 2k at the end of Sept., figuring cross training will build the strength needed? Thanks for taking the time to write that list, and hope Historian sees his target sub 6:30 PR in the next 30 days!
  • OldScarecrowOldScarecrow Registered User Posts: 112 Junior Member
    ^ Yes. He needs to build aerobic and anerobic strength.

    I'd also like to see a similarly concrete plan from Historian for his approach to schools other Penn.
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