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Coaches speak

mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
Lots of great info on this board. This is my first time through the recruiting process and my D is a cross country/distance runner hoping to run at an Ivy or NESCAC school. She reached out to a few local schools to visit and talk with the coach over Feb break. Bowdoin told her that athletics does not help in the admissions process and that she would have to get in on her own first. I see elsewhere in these posts that Bowdoin does recruit and that athletics helps in admissions. Looking for some guidance.
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Replies to: Coaches speak

  • acemomacemom Registered User Posts: 158 Junior Member
    My daughter was strongly recruited by Bowdoin, as were others we know in various sports. (Not XC).
  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone Registered User Posts: 20,201 Senior Member
    It may be the sport and the Bowdoin coach may be telling the truth - there are no 'tips' or 'slots' available to that team. I'll bet the hockey team is another story. At other schools the track/xc teams may be offering admission assistance.
  • OldbatesieDocOldbatesieDoc Registered User Posts: 2,056 Senior Member
    So either your daughter isn't a "prospie" or the college doesn't give any "slots" to XC...They definitely recruit and "help" in admissions for other NESCAC sports.
  • mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    I am leaning towards no slots as her times are more than competitive with other women on the team
  • gointhruaphasegointhruaphase Registered User Posts: 472 Member
    Mcr,

    Bowdoin, like the other NESCAC schools, does offer tips and slots for most sports. I would do a little research on this. If you Google the Bowdoin Orient and athletic recruiting, you will find articles that may prove informative. However, even if no slots are offered for cross country, I have to believe that if your daughter is competitive in the admissions mix, the coach's support would put her over the top. This would be the equivalent of a "tip" in NESCAC parlance. Assuming she wants to go to Bowdoin, the best thing to do is to ask for a pre-read from the coach.
  • mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    Thanks for the advice. Re-reading the response sounds as if they would love to have my D run varsity but her academics would have to get her in first. Maybe they are holding slots for a faster runner with less academic quals?
  • gointhruaphasegointhruaphase Registered User Posts: 472 Member
    There is a three part series about recruiting at Bowdoin in the Bowdoin Orient, which is why I suggested a look-see. There are sports at Bowdoin for which there are no slots (e.g., sailing and rugby). I didn't read far enough to see what they said about cross country. Maybe there are no slots, which could mean one of two things: 1) get in yourself and your performance in cross country is the equivalent to other ecs, like playing in the orchestra (this is explained in the article); or 2) because so many cross country runners have high academic achievement, the school does not need to give slots to the athletes. Thus, you can get coach's support, which will help, but you still need to have the academic chops to get in without support. I would still ask the coach for a pre-read.
  • mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    Thx I will have her do that. Just read the articles and the track coach is even quoted about recruited athletes. Not sure why he didn't say anything in his response to my D.
  • fauvefauve Registered User Posts: 3,515 Senior Member
    At this point he may have other favorite recruits. However, conditions in recruiting can change quickly, so do not give up hope. Continue expressing daughter's interest, perhaps his faves will take other offers and he will be more supportive. Do look for other schools where she is "loved" so she has back-ups.

    Does she have the academics to be a likely admittee at Bowdoin?
  • mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    I think so She is in the top 10% of her class with a 3.7 GPA and is class secretary (as well as other ECs). She is taking the ACT and SAT in the next two months.
  • d3athleted3athlete Registered User Posts: 20 New Member
    Went through the same process as your daughter last year. I talked to Slovenski (bowdoin coach) and tried to see if he could help me in admissions. I would have been a varsity XC runner. He said the same thing to me as your daughter, that he didn't really have influence in admissions and I would have to get in on my own through academics. I think it might just be that the Bowdion coach is really old-school (he actually wrote a book titled "Old School"--look it up) or that their track program isn't allowed to slot athletes.

    Good luck to your daughter! Middlebury has a great program, too!!!!
  • varskavarska Registered User Posts: 1,430 Senior Member
    Interesting that the Slovenski boys went on to compete in the Ivy League
  • mcr976mcr976 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    From what I gather, there are 3 boys that competed in the Ivies and not Bowdoin
  • d3athleted3athlete Registered User Posts: 20 New Member
    Princeton, Princeton, and Harvard for the boys. Father has a degree from Dartmouth and mother has one from Stanford.
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