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College Sports Recruiting: Visiting the College

SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
My son has been invited to visit a school in the fall by the college coach. Unfortunately he cannot visit on the dates he was invited, but offered other dates. What can he expect during a visit like this? If he offers another date is that looked down upon? Is this a reliable sign with regard to admittance to the college? Thanks for any help you can provide.

Replies to: College Sports Recruiting: Visiting the College

  • eastcoastrowereastcoastrower Registered User Posts: 34 Junior Member
    From what I've read, official visit offer means your son is on the top of the recruit list. It's like a sales pitch.. the coaches are trying to market their school and program to your son so that he will commit. Every athlete I know who got an official was recruited. I don't think requesting a different date to visit is going to be a negative. It's exciting! Best of luck!
  • gointhruaphasegointhruaphase Registered User Posts: 473 Member
    I disagree only slightly from @eastcoastrower. I don't think an OV visit means the "top of the list." I also don't think it reliably means admittance. A positive pre-read is far more reliable. I do think it means that he is on the list (whatever that is at this point in time) and that the coach thinks he is within the range to be admitted. I also believe it means that the coach is recruiting him. That may or may not mean that he will be on the coach's ultimate list of supported athletes presented to admissions. Because many recruits have OVs at more than one school, and coaches know that, coaches will invite more students for OVs than the number of recruits they need for their final list. I do know of people who had an OV but did not get admitted.

    Don't get ahead of yourself. Your son should offer up the dates that he is available. If he wants, he can explain why he can't make the OV on the date suggested, but honestly we all have things we are doing that make us unavailable. The coach will understand if you offer up 2 or 3 alternative dates. Then your son should go to see if HE likes the school.

    While I do think that coaches are marketing their program through the overnight, they also are assessing whether your son would be a fit with the team. So, he should behave reasonably. No OV is identical, but most involve time to tour the school, athletic facilities and be entertained by teammates. Sleeping arrangements may be impromptu. You may want to ask the coach if he recommends bringing a sleeping bag.
  • moscottmoscott Registered User Posts: 990 Member
    Doesn't sound like an OV...more of an unofficial visit. Are they inviting your son and paying for you and your son? some schools for football (usually D3) invite players to games with a total of 3 free tickets but you are responsible for air and hotel.
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Thank you for the terrific advice and thoughts. I want to take a measured approach to all of this as my ultimate aim as as a mom is that my son is able to compete at the college level and get a good education. I understand it's a competitive give-and-take climate when it comes to sports recruiting, and want to coach him forward with good advice. Thanks again.
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Thank you so much for your thoughtful response.
  • justverycuriousjustverycurious Registered User Posts: 68 Junior Member
    I would agree with moscott, the OP never mentioned it as an official visit, only that the son was invited to visit. It certainly would be OK to change dates and offer the coach alternate days. Our unofficial visits with HYPC coaches was usually arranged after a few back and forth emails discussing alternate dates.
  • kjs1992kjs1992 Registered User Posts: 94 Junior Member
    From our experience with our S, the coaches are pretty amenable to picking another date that works for you. They know that kids have other schools they're looking at. I'd have your son get back in touch with the coach, express his interest in the visit and school, but nicely explain those dates don't work and see if there's another date you can come up with, offer it out. I'm sure coaches hear that all the time. Our S just did that with one of his schools - he'll pick another date further out. Just keep in mind that many college swim teams have meets starting late Oct and into Nov. so some dates may be tough.

    As for what he can expect: As a recruited D1 swimmer myself years ago.....I stayed with a swimmer in the dorm, met the team and other recruits, watched the team practice, went to a sporting event on campus...at the time (25 years ago), also went to an "event" off campus with the team - not sure how often that happens still as I'm hearing a lot of schools going Sun-Mon overnights to cut down on "event" attending, but I'm sure it does. I met with the coach at the end of the weekend. We are good friends with a swimmer who was recruited to my D1 alma mater last year. At the end of her visit the coach met with her and offered her a NLI for November. She ultimately declined at that school, but those discussions do take place - I guess it just depends on the school/coach. From my personal experience (granted years ago...but I think it still rings true) it was an interview for them, and an interview for me - we both had to put on our best show. Good luck!
  • sushirittosushiritto Registered User Posts: 2,580 Senior Member
    I think some research must be done as to what defines an OV and what can be done on an OV in terms of NCAA rules. This smells like an OV to me. And you're only allowed so many OV's. But more research should be done by the OP.

    For example: "Per NCAA rules, you are allowed to take no more than five official visits to Division I and/or Division II schools and you can only take one visit, per school. There is no limit on the number of official visits you can take at the Division III and NAIA levels, but you can only take one visit per school."
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Not sure about details--we've already visited once. Will find out.
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    This is extremely helpful. Do you think parents should be nearby or is this strictly a student event? What is NLI? Can you tell you're talking to a rookie :)
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    This is really helpful too. I'll do a little research. Thank you.
  • moscottmoscott Registered User Posts: 990 Member
    NLI is National Letter of Intent
  • SeekwiseSeekwise Registered User Posts: 48 Junior Member
    Thank you.
  • crimsonmom2019crimsonmom2019 Registered User Posts: 210 Junior Member
    My D18 has an official visit scheduled in October. It is much as kjs1992 described: she will hit campus on Friday morning and go to classes with future teammates and watch a practice, there is a football game Saturday and we leave Sunday morning (by NCAA rules, you are only allowed 48 hours on campus). She will stay overnight in the dorms with the team on Friday and Saturday nights (D18's recruited '17 friends advised "events" still take place). We have already been told by the coach that she will sign her NLI (which is in essence a financial aid contract) during the early period in November.
  • kjs1992kjs1992 Registered User Posts: 94 Junior Member
    @crimsonmom2019 I totally forgot the class! Yes - my son will be attending a class in Sept. as well at his visits. I think that's just a super important part of the whole process - going to a class and seeing how it operates on the collegiate level. After all, you'll spend more time in class than on the field, pool, gym...etc. ;)
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