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  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 2462 replies36 threads Senior Member
    edited July 2018
    ^^^they may have calculated gpa in only core subject classes, eg, no PE, art, other electives
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  • CenterCenter 2204 replies66 threads Senior Member
    @midwesternmomof4 --Some schools do that. I understand why because they are trying to exclude easy A's but on the other hand maybe someone loves art. I feel like required electives should be included.
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    I'm pretty sure they used her entire GPA from all classes.
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  • dadof4kidsdadof4kids 695 replies68 threads Member
    I talked to several ivy coaches in a non football sport. None used the word "bands", but I think to a certain extent they all think along those lines. It may be their pull with admissions, or just how they meet their AI#. But pretty much all said something to the effect of the top recruit needing a certain score, the bottom needing something else, with the rest falling in between. To oversimplify, if they need an average 32 ACT, they can take a kid with a 27. But those extra 5 points have to come from somewhere. So the bottom 2 recruits need a 34 and 35 to keep the team average where it needs to be. Even if they aren't formally working with bands I'm guessing it ends up working in a similar fashion.
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  • MAandMEmomMAandMEmom 1661 replies10 threads Senior Member
    edited July 2018
    I’ve read here many times that an ivy pre-read is most successful if the act composite starts with a 3. I’d say a retest should be done and get your hands on every online and test prep book practice test and make your way through them. My S19 did it this way and throughout a month or two of pretty consistent practice, his scores began to settle pretty much where he ended up. I would say the delta between the initial cold practices and the final was about five points on each section. And follow on DD20 is using this method as well.
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  • TanbikoTanbiko 368 replies2 threads Member
    If the coach tells your daughter to increase the test score then she will have to retest. If not then the coach may be able to make up for her 201 AI. The coaches usually have some degree of control over the average team AI. I believe many lower profile sports have team averages around 210. HYP may be higher.
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Do you happen to know if the team average is men/women combined or just the women's average and just the men's average? I happen to know that the women's average is much higher than the men.
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  • BKSquaredBKSquared 1444 replies8 threads Senior Member
    ^There is an overall average all recruited athletes have to hit (the 1 standard deviation in AI vs. the general student body). Because of the bands in football which allow for greater deviation, and reported lower standards for other sports (typical suspects, basketball, hockey and lacrosse), the other sports have to make up for it. I don't know, but I strongly suspect each coach is allocated a minimum average each year (which may very well be different by sport and gender) so that the athletic department can hit its overall minimum. Might there be some horse trading between coaches at any given year or the AD and AO letting one sport go lower than their target because other sports have exceeded theirs, would not be surprised.
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  • dadof4kidsdadof4kids 695 replies68 threads Member
    My understanding is pretty much the same as @BKSquared. Every coach gets their own AI number that they have to meet, and the aggregate of the coaches' individual numbers has to meet the athletic department requriement. Individual sports' numbers will vary widely based on what everyone says here.
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  • GnocchiBGnocchiB 2078 replies230 threads Senior Member
    @midwesternmomof4 be aware that the French SAT subject test is very hard to score well on because they are skewed by so many heritage speakers that take them.
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  • CenterCenter 2204 replies66 threads Senior Member
    @GnocchiB just like Chinese. It is actually really quite a problem with some languages
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    She was going to take the french reading only, is that a bit easier than the listening? What other SAT subject tests are not too bad? Ugh, I didn't know that.
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  • CenterCenter 2204 replies66 threads Senior Member
    I didnt know they had reading only--the ones with listening are hard. If she is good in French and can read pretty well have her take a practice test to get a sense of how manageable it will be for her
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  • jmtabbjmtabb 201 replies12 threads Junior Member
    The college board published the percentile ranks for these tests :

    https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/sat/pdf/sat-subject-tests-percentile-ranks.pdf
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Yes, they have reading only. I agree that the listening is HARD.
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Thanks!!!!
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  • BKSquaredBKSquared 1444 replies8 threads Senior Member
    Remember for AI purposes, they are not looking at percentiles but just mechanically input the scores.
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  • midwesternmomof4midwesternmomof4 23 replies1 threads Junior Member
    Really? I have no clue how this works. That is good to know. Thank you.
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  • BKSquaredBKSquared 1444 replies8 threads Senior Member
    ^Here is a site that helps you calculate your AI. https://www.****/resources/college-calculator/
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