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Full Send or No Send Soccer?

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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    edited May 8
    There's an old adage that "it takes 6 weeks to get into shape and 2 weeks to get out of it." Out here in CA, cross country is a fall sport and track is a spring sport. So, you have plenty of time. Or go with soccer. Or just focus on school.

    Some "old guy" once said “Success occurs when opportunity meets preparation.” It's really up to you.

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  • MidwestmomofboysMidwestmomofboys 3950 replies27 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,977 Senior Member
    A young person who puts in time on the treadmill, the track, doing interval training, can get back into shape very quickly.
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41303 replies445 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 41,748 Senior Member
    edited May 8
    Why don't you go and try a practice or two with the team, see if it's fun, if you get along with them, and if you do well?
    You could continue soccer with the HS, for the love of the sport, and practice running seriously (conditioning, weight lifting, jogging/running, etc).
    What about discus, javelin...?
    Anyway, if you can get back into shape, you could have an athletic hook without having to play DA/Club soccer :)
    Two days ago I saw the interview with a young man who had been training for the 400M and switched one day to the 50m dash and broke a national record....
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  • squ1rrelsqu1rrel 318 replies21 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 339 Member
    @MYOS1634 Lol discus or javelin...have you seen my arms? They're probably skinnier than a javelin.

    Ok probably not but I'd stick with running. 800m is my best event IMO.
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41303 replies445 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 41,748 Senior Member
    Yup, but you still have time to test everything and figure out what your "best event" would be.
    And you can be BOTH a recruited athlete (if good at track) AND a HS soccer player. :) One in the Fall (+ extra running) and one in the Spring.
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  • twoinanddonetwoinanddone 22116 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 22,130 Senior Member
    I was thinking the same thing - those discus throwers are HUGE.

    Track and field scholarships are sliced and diced fairly thinly and while you may only want the hook to get into a school, those aren't always easy to get either.
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  • politepersonpoliteperson 265 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 269 Junior Member
    Track is a great sport, and by all means you should run if you want to. However, I’d push back a bit against the notion that a 5 minute mile suggests a future recruitable track athlete. It’s possible but unlikely in my experience, especially for one who doesn’t enjoy running. 5 minute untrained freshman guys are fairly common and it’s tough to predict which ones will improve enough to make varsity, let alone be recruited. Do it if you want to. Don’t do it because you think you’ll be recruited.

    @sushiritto the mile isn’t contested at many HS meets, which is why you’re finding few guys under 4:30. The 1600 is the relevant event to look at (except for a few states, which contest the 1500).
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41303 replies445 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 41,748 Senior Member
    I'm very much in favor of freshmen trying things without college goals. So what if @squ1rrel won't be winning anything throwing the discus or the javelin? If he has fun he can totally try every event before deciding on one. :)
    OP is taking calculus as a freshman and is already thinking of taking way too many AP's. He should have fun a little bit.

    @sq1rrel seems to want the athletic edge to get into MIT. You can look at MIT's recruited athletes and see whether that's even an achievable goal. But to get into MIT, developing tech skills, applying them to help others, and being a stellar student, is more important than being a top athlete.
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    edited May 9
    @politeperson The OP gave us a mile time, not a 1,600 time, so I went with what I was given. But I do understand that 1,600 is what most run today.
    My track times are:
    100m: 13
    200m: 27
    400m: Sub 60
    800m: Sub 2:20
    1 mile: 5:04
    5k: 19:20 (kinda slow, only ran once, not very useful for soccer anyway)

    For your consideration:

    Using just the given elite example, the MIT Track Recruiting Standards:

    800m = 1:56
    1,600m = 4:22

    https://scripts.mit.edu/~hwtaylor/recruiting/recruitingstandards.php

    Really, OP, do whatever you makes you happiest. You've got potential. And with REAL coaching and training, it may take you some where. I've coached recruitable athletes, but they've all worked hard at their "trade."
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  • squ1rrelsqu1rrel 318 replies21 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 339 Member
    @sushiritto Is there a big difference between 1600 and the 1 mile?
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    edited May 9
    @squ1rrel I don't mean to state the obvious, but 1 mile is 1,609.34 meters. So, your time of 5:04 for a mile would be a couple/few seconds less for 1,600 meters, which is the standard for most track meets as mentioned above.

    With proper track and strength coaching and hard work, you just never know. I don't mean to push you into anything that you don't want to do, but OTOH, soccer is a tough ladder to climb, especially with your size and weight.
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  • squ1rrelsqu1rrel 318 replies21 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 339 Member
    @sushiritto Lol I think my time was for the 1600, but everyone I know refers to the 1600 as the mile so I said that. It shouldn't make that big of a difference though...
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    Maybe you didn't run with an all-out effort, maybe your shoes weren't the best running shoes, maybe you didn't run on a track, maybe your running form needs work, there are a lot of variables, which we don't know here. And you're just 14-15 years old. But you should decide on a path soon, so if you choose the path of soccer or track, you can start to get on the radar.
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    NESCAC Championship Qualifying Standards:

    800m = 2:04
    1,500m = 4:20

    https://www.nescac.com/sports/track/2017-18/championship/qualifying_standard
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  • squ1rrelsqu1rrel 318 replies21 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 339 Member
    @sushiritto Thanks! 2:04 seems very achievable. I'll dwell on all of this for a bit. I'm just not sure I actually "like" running.
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  • politepersonpoliteperson 265 replies4 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 269 Junior Member
    To avoid confusion: 2:04 isn’t going to get you recruited but would be good enough to walk on some D3 programs. Most programs are looking for well under 2 just to start discussions about recruiting. To give you an idea of what it takes in your state, which you said up thread was NH: to get recruiting interest after your junior year, you’d need to be among the top 5 or so 800 guys in your state across all grades, give or take depending on the year. Most of those top 5 probably could run 2:10 in 9th grade with minimal training. So by all means go for it, but understand that it is an enormous challenge.
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41303 replies445 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 41,748 Senior Member
    @politeperson: are you talking D1 or D3 (MIT, Caltech)?
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3543 replies9 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,552 Senior Member
    Assuming NH, the top 5 times were:

    800: 1:58-2:01
    1,600: 4:32-4:35

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  • squ1rrelsqu1rrel 318 replies21 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 339 Member
    @sushiritto There is a kid from my school going to Dartmouth next year who ran a 3:57 in indoor this year, should be able to run similar this track season.
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