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  • autmaineautmaine Registered User Posts: 117 Junior Member
    We all know Bates is better than Connecticut College. Just give up huskem (jk). But, I also notice that a lot of the NESCAC schools have strange mascots. Bowdoin Polar Bears, Williams Ephs... but Camels is the strangest, I think.
    I think Conn. and Bates are similar, but when given the choice, most people would choose Bates. Bates is such an awesome school.
    And yeah, of course there are bobcats in Maine!
  • woebegonewoebegone Registered User Posts: 548 Member
    If reputation is anything to go by, Bates is may be slightly better than Conn in terms of academics. Bates may pride itself on its rigorous academics, but Conn's isn't weak either. But there are so many other factors to consider, such as location, financial aid, courses available, whether or not there are any singaporeans there or going there. I chose Conn in the end, though it was really a hairspliting decision. And I sometimes do look back and ask myself if I really made the right decision, to choose an arguably more prestigious college over another that's not even listed in CC's top LACs (why not, btw? surely Conn is comparable to Kenyon and Washington&Lee, or at least Whitman? besides, every other school in NESCAC is listed it's not very nice to leave CC out, especially when it has the same abbreviation as this forum.)

    But I've made my choice. And I shall live with it. Besides I am not the only one. According to the sample size used in Revealed Preference Rankings, Conn won 48% of the cross-admit wars between Conn and Bates, with Conn ranking at 58th, Bates 59th and Colby is at a distant 71th overall.

    It's hard to deny that Bates is slowly climbing up the prestige ladder whereas Conn is on the decline though. If USNEWS rankings mean anything, Conn fell from 24th to 36th over the past 10 years, just as fast as they rose from 40th into mid-20s the decade before that (which was commendable for a school barely 70+ years old back then). You can probably attribute that to bad investments, unshrewd presidents and lousy media publications (the website and college prospectus are unattractive, to say the least). But I think the new president looks very promising and will lead Conn on its rebound and scaling of greater heights!

    Yeah I must admit I was a little averse to the strange mascot initially but I'm beginning to find it somewhat cute.
  • huskem55huskem55 User Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 4,284 Senior Member
    i agree woebegone with alot of what you said- in the cc "top lac" forum, there are schools that are MUCH easier to get into than conn, and conn is at least, if not better than, several in academic quality.
    also, i have no clue why conns ranking is so low- its ranked 25th in admissions selectivity, 26th in retention/graduation rate, 32nd in alumni giving, and extremely well respected among grad school admissions committees, as well as high school guidance counselors and admissions counselors at other schools (i have close contact with several).
    i think the issue is with the budget- the president who left in 2004, while she trippled the endowment, made horrible investments in the new london community. her replacement was very dull. hopefully the new guy will put conn back where it belongs, in the 20s.
    regardless, all the important people know the quality of conn, as well as the other less known nescac schools (dont fool your selves bates, colby, hamilton, trinity- outside of new england, no one has heard of you either)!
  • autmaineautmaine Registered User Posts: 117 Junior Member
    almost all the NESCACs, except maybe Amherst or Williams (no ones really knows that one either), are not very well known outside of NE. CC probably has the worst rep. of the NESCACs, it just is that way-- it still is a great school! But Bates, really, seems to be better one.
  • huskem55huskem55 User Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 4,284 Senior Member
    great! you are entitled to your opinion- i happen to think that conn is academically superior, and you think bates is. im happy to agree to disagree! both are absolutely terrific schools, and i will fight anyone who thinks otherwise (along with the other lesser known nescacs)!
  • woebegonewoebegone Registered User Posts: 548 Member
    eh cool it. students at bates won't know what is it like at conn, and neither will students at conn noe anything about bates. unless they do exchange-program at the other school that is, which is pointless in the first place given how similar the two schools are. so it's just as pointless to argue who is superior in terms of academic quality and such. though i have to, but hate to, admit that bates does seem to have a stronger reputation than conn as well as many LACs ranked above itself.
  • autmaineautmaine Registered User Posts: 117 Junior Member
    Bates does have an excellent reputation within the NE LACs, and within the prestigious graduate programs. And I agree, Bates has created an image that seems to leave even school that are ranked above it by USNEWS in the dust. Bates has a edge about it, it's different from the others-- I don't know, just the feeling there.
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