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Anyone here in PLME?

imaginationpowerimaginationpower Registered User Posts: 211 Junior Member
edited October 2007 in Brown University
Hi, I was thinking about applying to PLME but I don't personally know anyone in the program so this in one of the only ways I can get more subjective information about the program.

I heard that if you check the box for ED for ONLY PLME is hurts you b/c they see you're not committed to brown. is this true?

Also, how is the program in general? is it too stressful and hard? or do u have time to pursue outside activities? how are the classes and professors? are they hard and give a lot of work?

I noticed that there weren't too many requirements to stay in the program. so does that mean that as long as you're an average to good student, you'll get into the medical school at the end of the 4 years?

How is Providence as a city? Is it boring or are there fun things to do like clubs, parties, movies, restaurants...etc.

this will give an a holistic view on Brown and its PLME program. thanks.
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Replies to: Anyone here in PLME?

  • imaginationpowerimaginationpower Registered User Posts: 211 Junior Member
    also, how are the students? I've heard they're reallllyy liberal.
  • eating foodeating food Registered User Posts: 1,927 Senior Member
    probably not true about the ED only plme thing. lots of people want to apply only to med programs.

    i stayed at brown this summer for a three week camp and the city is amazing. It's really liberal and really exciting... lots of historical sites and things to do.
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    You're guaranteed admission to the Brown Med School after your four years if you graduate, maintain a 3.0, and do the requirements. As a PLME student you're no different than anyone else-- you dont have separate housing (you do have some separate funding available for science research), and you're just a regular Brown student while here as an undergrad. It's just that after Brown UGrad you can go directly to Brown Med without reapplying.

    The answer to the check mark is I don't know, but you probably shouldn't apply ED to a place you're not ready to spend 4 years at but would be ok spending 8 years there. Students who don't come to Brown for undergraduate work because of our undergraduate offering hurt the community at large, IMO, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the opinion of many admissions counselors, though that's purely speculation.

    Everything else you asked is answered all over this forum in various threads and I'd direct you to them.
  • uml1958uml1958 Registered User Posts: 249 Junior Member
    Can you switch to other major from PLME if you don't want to go to medical school?
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    PLME isn't a major, it's a program, and you shouldn't apply if you're not 100% sure you want to go to medical school. It'd be a shame to take a spot from someone else. You're not forced to go to Brown Med School, you have guaranteed admission, and you can concentrate in anything like any other pre-med student.

    There is no reason whatsoever to bother applying to the most selective program in the country if you're unsure-- that's not what this is designed for in any way.
  • imaginationpowerimaginationpower Registered User Posts: 211 Junior Member
    To be honest, I'm interested in brown because of their PLME program in combination with all the benefits of going to brown; however, the benefits of brown alone aren't enough for me to apply ED there for 4 years. although thanks for the advice. I'm looking for a combined program at any good university that gives me strong academic preparation and that also allows me the freedom to do research, volunteer and clubs without the stress of applying to medical school, whether that college is brown or not, and I personally find no fault in that philosophy. just saying.
  • sly_vtsly_vt Registered User Posts: 774 Member
    My understanding is that yes, it does hurt your chances of acceptance if you would not attend Brown if it weren't for PLME. There are students who are rejected from PLME but accepted to Brown. I don't know if that has happened in the ED round.
  • imaginationpowerimaginationpower Registered User Posts: 211 Junior Member
    well of course people are going to be accepted to brown and not plme. they might qualify to go to the school but not for PLME and of course they can't put everyone in PLME so if they are qualified, they just get accepted to brown. that happens in all programs. I was actually specifically referring to whether they don't accept you PURPOSELY b/c you didn't apply to brown ED.
    but thanks for your input.
  • deathlyhollowsdeathlyhollows Registered User Posts: 179 Junior Member
    I'd love to know this too..I'm in the same position...

    The only difference is that I am applying to PLME with an attraction to Brown (especially after visiting). Actually, I think I can answer your question. At the information session I attended at Brown, I asked whether admission rates differ between applicants who apply ED to Brown and PLME versus those who are interested solely in PLME.

    He said, "I'm not positive, but to tell you the truth, it probably does. We'd rather have people who are interested in our undergraduate as well as graduate school." (this is not verbatim, but you get the point).

    So let's say I have a better chance if I apply ED to Brown and PLME.
    Does the increased chance I have of getting in to PLME when applying ED outweigh my chance of being rejected to PLME, getting into Brown, doing pre-med at Brown, and not being able to apply to other 7/8 year medical programs?
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    Just so you guys are aware, PLME is not accelerated, just guaranteed admission. You won't have a problem getting into Med School if you go to Brown undergrad, and likely a higher ranked one, as long as you take care of business.

    And what deathlyhollows says is essentially correct. While officially the ansewr should be it doesnt matter, for the most part, admissions officers view their job as creating the best undergraduate class for Brown, the whole PLME thing is a very small segment of population thrust upon them about 30-40 years ago when the med school sucked (it doesnt anymore) and couldnt attract good med students-- that's why PLME started. To take advantage of the fantastic students they got applying to Brown to try and boost the med school (it has worked). However, with the craze of getting into med school without applying to med school and accelerated program, it's become hypercompetitive and very popular because it's one of the few programs that exists at an undergrad institution the caliber of Brown.

    You don't have to get into med school after high school to be a doctor.
  • foreverecforeverec Registered User Posts: 18 New Member
    what if I am applying to PLME regular decision? would applying to it hurt my chances of getting into Brown? (for example would they be thinking that if I don't get accepted into PLME I won't want to be going to brown?)
  • crzy2ritecrzy2rite Registered User Posts: 311 Member
    I don't think any of the 8 year programs work like that. I am going for the Rice/Baylor and the Rochester 8 year programs and they say that the people who are in charge for the admission of the 8 year program will look you over (that is why these applications need to be sent earlier) and if they don't want to take you, you will be sent straight to the actual college...no harm, no foul

    Hope this helped and good luck!
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