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KristinaKristina Registered User Posts: 1,017 Senior Member
edited April 2008 in Brown University
Sorry if this topic has been covered before. But after reading Brown's policy on AP credit, I have a couple questions.

1. It says that "AP credits do not count towards the 30 courses required to graduate from Brown. They may, however, in certain instances, allow a student to graduate in fewer than 8 semesters." If courses don't count toward the 30, how could you possibly graduate in fewer than 8 semesters?? It sounds like AP credits just let you take advanced courses sooner. Correct me if I'm wrong.

2. "Biology
4 or 5: earns one unassigned credit in biology and placement beyond Biomed 20." Does an "unassigned credit" mean that if I'm a bio major, I will be able to take one fewer course toward my concentration?

3. Just confirming-- there is absolutely no reason for me to take the English Literature exam, right?

4. "French Language and Literature
4: earns credit for French 40 and placement into French 50 or 52." If I'm not a French major, does this "credit" actually mean anything?

Thanks for any clarification :)
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  • franglishfranglish Registered User Posts: 2,308 Senior Member
    You will not receive credit for AP. You will perhaps be able to place out of intro or lower level courses. There are plenty of upper level courses that need to be "climbed" into, by taking pre-requisites one step at a time. If you do well on APs, then you might be able to enter on a higher rung in the pre-req ladder. You cannot graduate without taking and passing 30 courses, beginning with courses that are appropriate for you, based on your interests and in the cases of classes that need pre-reqs, based on AP/SAT II scores.

    You can take whatever classes you want at Brown, providing you fulfill your concentration (major) requirements. That means the number of classes and the particular classes themselves that the department has set. If you place out of lower level classes, you replace those with higher level ones, but you still need to fulfill departmental requirements-- say 12 courses, or whatever. Therefore, as there are no distribution or core requirements, you are right, there is no reason for you to take the Eng Lit exam, unless you want to.
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    The unassigned Biology credit is just a way that the AP Bio will show up on your transcript, it won't save you any courses.

    You can, if you get I think it's 5 5s or maybe 10 5s, graduate early, so long as you've overloaded your courses to take 30 at Brown anyway. It's a bad idea, don't do it. That's my personal advice.

    Just because you don't think now that you'll ever use your French competency or take French again does not mean that you should not take the exam now. It's a show of your level in a language and one you may appreciate at some point down the road when you're not a college senior just sick of the BS. But the English Lit exam-- forget about it.
  • matthewyymatthewyy Registered User Posts: 88 Junior Member
    modestmelody..Could you please tell more about this?

    "You can, if you get I think it's 5 5s or maybe 10 5s, graduate early, so long as you've overloaded your courses to take 30 at Brown anyway. "

    Because I have that many. I have 8 5s and 3 4 s
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    I don't know the details because I never looked into it (though I have enough 5s as well).

    Like I said, I generally think early graduation is a bad idea, but it's possible. I'm sure the information is on the Dean of the College webpage.
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    Brown University - Dean of the College

    There's a start. What I can tell you is receiving this approval is non-trivial with very good reason.
  • franglishfranglish Registered User Posts: 2,308 Senior Member
    From Modest's post, the site of the Dean of the College:
    Students who are given permission for accelerated graduation are still required to pay the remaining tuition units.

    So, since you have to pay anyway, why not take advantage of all that Brown has to offer, and use the time. You really have no need to rush.
  • matthewyymatthewyy Registered User Posts: 88 Junior Member
    that sucks...paying for something you don't actually get...=(( so it is not a good idea...as modestmelody said..
  • benjaminxbenjaminx Registered User Posts: 47 Junior Member
    No, advanced standing is different from accelerated graduation.

    Advanced Standing

    You don't have to pay that extra semester's tuition if you can get 3 to 6 credits from your APs, but you still have to take 30 classes at Brown. Make sure you look at the policies for granting AP credit, though. I had 10 5s, a 4, and a 3, and I'm only getting 3 credits for Econ 11 and Math 9 and 10. A lot of the departments don't grant credit at all, and most of them require that you take a higher level class in order to receive credit for the lower level class.
  • KristinaKristina Registered User Posts: 1,017 Senior Member
    Awesome, thanks for the help, all. I'm probably going to go forward with all my exams except English lit. (I can't wait to see my teacher's expression when I tell her I didn't go to the exam :D)
  • franglishfranglish Registered User Posts: 2,308 Senior Member
    Kristina-- be careful about canceling that exam... I teach in a HS which will not give students credit for having taken the AP course if they don't take the AP exam. If that's not a concern for you, then fine. If it is a concern, just take the exam and don't worry about the score. You don't have to report the score if you don't want to.
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Registered User Posts: 4,654 Senior Member
    That's the way it was in my school, Franglish. If you didn't take the AP you had to take a separate final during finals week at the end of the year which otherwise you'd have completely off from school, that final was an AP exam, and your score out of 100 would be 20% of your grade. Needless to say, it made far more sense to take the AP.
  • KristinaKristina Registered User Posts: 1,017 Senior Member
    Taking the AP exam is not required at my school, fortunately.
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