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official "we don't have a chance" thread but we still love Brown!

superwomansuperwoman Registered User Posts: 751 Member
edited February 2009 in Brown University
Okay, so I've been reading people's threads about how they don't think they have a chance when clearly there SAT scores speak for themselves. I'm not saying that anyone can accurately predict what your chances are but if you score in the middle 50 % range of a colleges admitted pool, including having the high gpa and great extracurriculars, as well as a great package, chances are you have a better chance then another applicant who's scores are low (me) and gpa is not that high (me) but have great extracurriculars and everything else is fine.

so here it goes, this is a chance thread for all those applicants that REALLY think they don't stand a chance. to display what I mean these are my stats:

Location: Boston
Gender: shorty
Race: Black
School: Private
GPA: 4.5 UW ( out of 5.0); 3.7 out of 4.0 (school grade's weird)
Rank: 10/150
ACT: taking nex weekend hoping for 28 but definetly might get a 25
SAT I: CR 510 M 590 W 550 (after 3 times; I get extremely nervous when taking tests to the point that I pass out, I did the first time I took it; =/
SAT IIs: Math 1- 650 Math 2- 700 Chem- 540 : (

Junior: English Language- 4 History- 4
Senior: Comp. Sci A- getting 98 right now-hoping for a 4 on the exam Biology- hoping for a 5 on exam, English Lit & Comp- hoping for 3 on the exam

School Clubs:

National Honor Society, Science League, College Bowl, Mock Trial Program, Yearbook Committee, Rachel's Challenge, Newspaper Club as well as Volleyball for two years, Soccer for two years, and Track for 3 years.

Volunteer Work:

I am a La Verdad substance abuse prevention peer leader, a part of my city's Youth City Council, Northeast Tobacco Youth Advisory Board, part of the 84 Statewide Tobacco Crew, Anti-Violence Club at North Shore Community College, Reach out and Read volunteer at the local Community Health Center, NHS tutor at my school, Girls Incorporated Tutor, Fourth Grade Sunday School Teacher for two years, Walk for Hunger 2008 organizer, Liver Foundation Walk, and an Obama campaign volunteer this year, as well as many other volunteer opportunities during my high school career.

Work/Research Experience (in the summer):

-participated in SummerLab Biotechnology program at BU MEd school, now in CityLab Scholars at BU MED school.
-AP Scholars program-AP BIO

Essays: great! I wrote about becoming a women in an all-women environment after coming back to America at 10 (also talked about challenges here too)
Teacher Recs: great! I got to read one of them and the teacher was very very honest about my habits in class!
Counselor Rec: idk...I barely talk to him and everytime I do all he says is "that school would give you alot of money because of your ethnic status-maybe you can play that up" ridiculous
why brown essay- talked about the fair-that's mostly how i stumbled upon brown

-I recently wrote a grant for Girls incorporated and we were awarded it accordingly $10, 000 to fund a role model's tobacco group which I am leading. I was also given an award for being the National Finalist for Excellence in Youth Advocacy Award and given a citation by the mayor of my city....I sent a copy of this award and citation.

Anyone else who feels like they have no hope. feel free to post your stats! =/

countdown until admissions decision: (eastern time)

58 days
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Replies to: official "we don't have a chance" thread but we still love Brown!

  • collegebound_91collegebound_91 Registered User Posts: 451 Member
    me too!

    gender: female
    race: black
    school: public (top 100)
    Gpa: 4.55/4.6 (will be 4.59 after this semester)
    Rank: top 1%
    sat: m:690 cr: 630 w: 600
    sat2: chem:770 bio: 720 math2: 660
    8 ap classes, 2 college classes
    3 leadership positions
    3 languages
    3 instruments
    2 sports
    national achievement
    some departmetal, community, ec awards, congressional gold medal

    but still no chance bc of sat1....
  • superwomansuperwoman Registered User Posts: 751 Member
    I think your scores are pretty good, they are in the middle 50 % you know, but I see where your coming from! my sat 1 are terribly low =/ hopefully brown can see my love for the school through my app. Good Luck! national achievement- that's pretty good!
  • lilygraceslilygraces Registered User Posts: 1,195 Senior Member
    Location: New York
    Gender: Female
    Race: White
    School: Public
    GPA: 3.7 UW out of 4.0; 4.0 W
    Rank: 35/200
    ACT: 27
    SAT I: Didn't send
    SAT IIs: Didn't send
    APs: European History (10), Chemistry (11), US History (11), English Language (11), English Literature (12), Music Theory (12), French (12), Environmental (12), Government (12)

    School Clubs:

    National Honor Society (VP), Foreign Language Honor Society (Editor), Social Studies Honor Society, National English Honor Society (Board of Directors), Model UN (P 2 years), Stage Crew (stage manager 2 years), Newspaper, GSA (VP), Band, Clarinet Choir, Pep Band, Marching Band, Chorus, Elite Chorus, Women's Chorus, Environmental Club

    Volunteer Work:

    Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation International (helped coordinate events for sponsors/donators), Local Library (helped coordinate events for sponsors/donators, created projects for children), Arts Camp Counselor

    Work/Research Experience (in the summer):

    - Gate guard at a beach club 4 summers, 40 hours per week
    - Babysitter

    Essays: I hate to say this, but really good. I've had teachers who have read them call them "outstanding"
    Teacher Recs: No idea. I hope good.
    Counselor Rec: (See teacher recs)
    why brown essay- Talked about my experience at [email protected] and observations of a friend who goes to Brown (how he's intellectually matured, etc)

    ...No chance. Especially compared to other students at my school who have applied.
  • 100Canadian100Canadian Registered User Posts: 183 Junior Member
    I'll join the no-chance crew :)

    Location: Canada
    Gender: male
    Race: African and Indian
    School: Catholic
    GPA: 4.0 UW (converted from Canadian system)
    Rank: top few % out of 220
    SAT I: CR 580 M 720 W 670 - I hate reading/didn't prepare well enough at all, and i hate tests like that. Math is my favourite subject, but i've never hated it as much as i did during SAT.. ran out of time in sections in all subjects, even tho i had very few wrong :(
    SAT IIs: Just did math I and II, hoping for 780+ on each.. not sure though

    I have a solid essay, and great recs, and in terms extra curriculars i'm a varsity athlete in 3 sports (2 outside of school). I'm good, but fall just short of being recruited so it kinda sucks.

    My SAT I is gonna kill me... i know it :D but im keeping some hope anyways
  • superwomansuperwoman Registered User Posts: 751 Member
    lilygraces- I think you have a chance : )
    never compare yourself to others, bc we're all supper unique! Have hope! : )

    100Canadian- again, you do fall in the middle 50 % range! I have confidence you'll be pretty competitive, I mean I don't think I've ever met an African and Indian canadian before (lol) pretty diverse! Hey at least you play a sport, I love volleyball and soccer and track. But the closest thing to a sport I can say I do well is cheerleading, which I never list on my EC's bc some people tell me it doesn't count! Lol. Soo not true! You need a great bod to be a cheerleader (hehe-lol)

    Both of you, enjoy senior year & hopefully Brown can see past our numbers! lol
  • 100Canadian100Canadian Registered User Posts: 183 Junior Member
    Haha thanks superwoman :)
    Ya i have the diversity thing going for me, but the 580 is scaring me cuz only 10% of admitted applicants have that score :( but thanks for ur confidence haha
    And if i was a cheerleader I'd put it on my list, and ur right about the body thing i guess haha :P
    Anyways good luck!
  • FB lalalandFB lalaland Registered User Posts: 536 Member
    I'll join the club since my Critical Reading score is crap.

    Location: Canada
    School: I.B. Public
    Percentile: Top 3% / 300
    SAT: 680/780/730 (I hate reading.)
    TOEFL: 115/120 (if they even look at this)
    SAT II: Math IIC 800, Biology-E 760, Chemistry 710, Chinese with Listening 800
    AP: Calculus AB 5, Chinese Language and Culture 5, Biology 5, Chemistry 3 (=.=)
    I.B. Predicted: 41/45 (ironically 7/7 for I.B. English HL, and my English teacher told me I am one of the "top 5 IB English 12 HL students in the school")
    Toughest Courseload Available
    Ethnicity: Atayal (Taiwanese Aboriginal)-Canadian
    ECs: I invent my own. Provincial swimmer + Founder of swim team + Youth Leader at a local library + Co-founded a non-profit organization promoting music appreciation among children in poverty + swimmer and musician for 12 years

    The best student at my school, with 2300+ SAT is applying, so I don’t think I have any chance.
  • bicyclekickbicyclekick Registered User Posts: 958 Member
    @ 100Canadian

    i'm pretty sure math 1 and math 2 do not count as 2 seperate subject tests
  • 100Canadian100Canadian Registered User Posts: 183 Junior Member
    Fb lalaland are u from ottawa by any chance
  • 100Canadian100Canadian Registered User Posts: 183 Junior Member
    And bicyclekick they do... Well if they count at harvard im guessing they do at brown. Plus i didnt have many other options anyways lol
  • mcvcm92mcvcm92 Registered User Posts: 1,192 Senior Member
    I've never been to Brown, but I may go soon

    Male from New York (Junior)

    UW GPA: 3.76

    AP Classes: AP Euro (4), AP Lang and Comp, AP Psych, APUSH, AP Biology, AP Env Science, AP Lit, AP Calc AB

    PSAT: 202 (80 Math, 61 CR, 61 W)


  • FB lalalandFB lalaland Registered User Posts: 536 Member
    Fb lalaland are u from ottawa by any chance

    No. Vancouver, BC.
  • superwomansuperwoman Registered User Posts: 751 Member
    fblalaland- dont compare yourself to the other students. there must be something that makes you more unique then the others. soo just kick back & relaxx. lol. did you have an interview yet?

    mcvcm92- 202 is really good for PSAT especially first time soo with prep im sure you can go up significantly also, try to take the ACT and go see Brown. Bc its really hard to apply to schools youve never seen..well for me it is. Good luck though!
  • pineapplelolliepineapplelollie Registered User Posts: 427 Member
    I really don't think you guys have bad stats... though I know I do... my gpa itself is only a 3.51 UW and I rank 181/750. My SAT I is only a 1910 (1960 superscored). But I do have a 31 on the ACT. Besides my gpa and rank, everything else is pretty much okay...

    BUT there are many people at my school who also really want to go to Brown who also applied so I truly think my chance of getting admitted is close to nothing.
  • xStevenxSteven Registered User Posts: 1,400 Senior Member
    Location: Maryland
    Gender: Male
    Race: White
    School: Public
    GPA: 3.68 UW, 4.1W, slight upward trend
    Top 10%
    ACT: 29
    SAT I: 640M, 630CR, 620W
    SAT IIs: Much worse than anyone here; I didn't submit them.
    ECs: Not great or bad, I guess.
    Essays: I thought they were REALLY good. My opening sentence to common app was, "I had my first encounter with a pedophile at age 10."
    Recs: I read them and they were very nice.
    APs taken: us government, biology, english lang, psychology, chemistry, english lit, and calc AB.

    I think I'll do reallllllly well on my interview.
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