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USNEW Rankings & UG Business Programs

parikhsparikhs 1386 replies221 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,607 Senior Member
edited November 2008 in Business Major
I've been told that the USNEWS rankings proves nothing in the end. Can anyone link me to a page that shows which UG colleges top IB Companies recruit from? Basically I'm trying to find an undergrad business program where I can major in finance and have a good opportunity to get recruited after my senior year.
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  • TpeckTpeck 518 replies72 discussions- Posts: 590 Member
    Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)
    Cornell University
    Emory University (Goizuetta)
    Georgetown University (McDonough)
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
    New York University (Stern)
    University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ross)
    University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan Flagler)
    University of Notre Dame
    University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
    University of Southern California (Marshall)
    University of Texas-Austin (McCombs)
    University of Virginia (McIntire)
    Washington University-St Louis (Olin)
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  • parikhsparikhs 1386 replies221 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,607 Senior Member
    Damn, I have no chance at any of those:

    3.6 UW GPA
    1270 M/V SAT's

    I applied ED to Stern, praying I get in.
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  • nightflynightfly 131 replies1 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 132 Junior Member
    What about some of these?

    University of Texas–Austin
    Indiana University–Bloomington
    Ohio State University–Columbus
    U of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign
    Pennsylvania State U.–University Park
    University of Florida
    University of Washington
    Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison
    Boston College
    Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette
    CUNY–Baruch College
    University of Illinois–Chicago
    Univ. of Maryland–College Park
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  • mackinawmackinaw 2974 replies53 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,027 Senior Member
    Michigan State University (Broad School) is highly recruited and has strong international focus.
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  • hotctyplayahotctyplaya 173 replies46 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 219 Junior Member
    UMCP, Illinois-Urbana, and Penn State are prob. the best off that list.
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  • mahras2mahras2 1938 replies39 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,977 Senior Member
    Michigan State University (Broad School) is highly recruited and has strong international focus

    For ibanking? Unless its back office work thats not true.

    If you want to major in business and have a good shot at getting recruited head to these schools:

    Wharton, MIT, Cornell, Michigan (Ross), Stern, UVa, Gtown, UNC.

    You can probably get in from others but it will be harder.
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  • mackinawmackinaw 2974 replies53 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 3,027 Senior Member
    You're stating the obvious and ignoring the obvious. First, if you can get into one of the top dozen or so schools, do it. If you can't you need something other than an obvious list. That's what the OP was looking for. Second, IBanking is an extremely narrow focus, and you don't "major" in it as an undergrad. It makes much better sense to look for schools that are strong overall and heavily recruited. If you look at WallStJournal and some other rankings you would know that USNews doesn't necessily reflect what recruiters are looking for. Also, you are just looking at "business schools" and there are many colleges that are highly recruited (even for IBanking) that don't have a business major and hence don't get on your narrow-minded list. One example: UChicago.
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  • parikhsparikhs 1386 replies221 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,607 Senior Member
    Thanks mackinaw. Can you show me WallStJournal's rankings? Basically I have no chance at the top business programs, but gave Stern a shot ED because I have some hope. I'm applying to PSU, UMich, BU, BC, Northeastern, Villanova. I need some other good business programs with a good student life as well as good business program that is wellknown by recruiters.
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  • TpeckTpeck 518 replies72 discussions- Posts: 590 Member
    If I remember right, UT - Austin has an Investment banking track/major within their finance degree.
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  • parikhsparikhs 1386 replies221 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,607 Senior Member
    I don't plan on going that far west. Anywhere in the northeast.
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  • pimpthatthangpimpthatthang 239 replies42 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 281 Junior Member
    to me, there's wharton and then there's everybody else. stern is only good b/c its AT Wall st. A ross or tepper degree prolly has the same weight as a regular degree from u chicago, northwestern, or a top LAC school such as williams
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  • mahras2mahras2 1938 replies39 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,977 Senior Member
    You're stating the obvious and ignoring the obvious. First, if you can get into one of the top dozen or so schools, do it. If you can't you need something other than an obvious list. That's what the OP was looking for. Second, IBanking is an extremely narrow focus, and you don't "major" in it as an undergrad. It makes much better sense to look for schools that are strong overall and heavily recruited. If you look at WallStJournal and some other rankings you would know that USNews doesn't necessily reflect what recruiters are looking for. Also, you are just looking at "business schools" and there are many colleges that are highly recruited (even for IBanking) that don't have a business major and hence don't get on your narrow-minded list. One example: UChicago.

    I have not based my group of list to be what USNEWS reports. If I did Wash U would be on there. I suggest the OP looks at the recruiting websites of the banks and determines it him/herself.
    Yes I know there are many schools that have recruiting that dont have business schools. However, I suggest you read the first post the OP posted. He/She wants to major in business and have a good shot at ibank recruiting. Now you posted about Mich State and I responded to it because it is not recruited by ibanks even though it does have a business school.
    I would suggest reading the OP's concern first before you start attacking someone else.

    Straight from the OP's post:
    Can anyone link me to a page that shows which UG colleges top IB Companies recruit from? Basically I'm trying to find an undergrad business program where I can major in finance and have a good opportunity to get recruited after my senior year.
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  • quakermanquakerman 231 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 231 Junior Member
    "to me, there's wharton and then there's everybody else. stern is only good b/c its AT Wall st. A ross or tepper degree prolly has the same weight as a regular degree from u chicago, northwestern, or a top LAC school such as williams"

    I don't even know how to respond to this except to apologize to you for being rejected at NYU.
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  • UntiltedUntilted 1933 replies47 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,980 Senior Member
    let me clarify something. tepper grads are not really well-represented on the wall street for some reason.
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  • quakermanquakerman 231 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 231 Junior Member
    it's not that good of a school. Penn is obviously number 1, followed by NYU and MIT, and then theres the rest. But in terms of quality of student body, those 3 are far and away the best. Theres tons of people in at Michigan and Berkeley with scores around and below the low 1200s.
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  • GentlemanandScholarGentlemanandScholar 1214 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,228 Senior Member
    I'd say NYU is overated, but quakerman is the only one that ranks it so high.
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  • quakermanquakerman 231 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 231 Junior Member
    I really could care less what you think. you can cite all the subjective reputation scores etc you want but Stern SAT/gpa average speaks for itself.
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  • GentlemanandScholarGentlemanandScholar 1214 replies14 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 1,228 Senior Member
    Well, its not speaking to me, so maybe you could post it next to MIT's, Berkeley's, Penn's and Umich's?
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  • quakermanquakerman 231 replies0 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 231 Junior Member
    sterns SAT is higher than Penn, lower than Wharton and about 200 points higher than berkeley and mich. don't even put berkeley and michigan in the equation. one is infested with community college transfers, the other lives on past reputation. or are you one who when compared something like nyu law to mich law, ignores the huge discrepancy in lsat score and instead points to subjective areas like lawyer reputation? theres students who transfer into ross with 1100s and 1200s, so long as they do well in the pre-reqs. And I don't even like NYU, its a corporation that doesn't care about its students, but i'm perceptive enough to know it has a better student body quality than freaking michigan and berkeley. when i see lists of top high schools and see that their students choose ivy leagues and schools like nyu in great proportions and not schools like umich and berkeley, that means something. but yes, the great students of easy free As public high schools do choose places like michigan. It's whatever you want to think. Like I said, I don't even like NYU but the high school kids I know, which is what matters, almost unanimously would choose nyu.
    i'm not going to take the time to post SAT scores but you can see for yourself, and that will shut your mouth.
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  • Sam LeeSam Lee 9273 replies176 discussionsRegistered User Posts: 9,449 Senior Member
    quakerman,

    The average SAT for Stern's incoming freshmen (2005) was 1423. Berkeley's average was 1370 (2004). There's no 200-pt difference. By the way, you are comparing the best college at NYU to entire Berkeley. Wouldn't it be more fair to compare Stern with Hass, which still may not have the best Berkeley students--they are probably in the engineering school.

    For Berkeley's Hass, the average GPA of enrolled students from Berkeley itself was 3.64. My guess is students with 3.64 GPA at Berkeley are probably smart enough to score above 1423 on SAT when they were in HS. You mentioned about Berkeley being "infested with CC transfers"; just so you know, only 90 out of 1176 were offered transfer admission to Hass.
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