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BCom: Mcgill or UBC?

koitikoiti Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
edited May 2007 in Business Major
Hi all,

The deadline for accepting Mcgill's offer is May1st - three days away yet I'm unable to make a decision. I realize that the schools with the highest reputation for Commerce in Canada are Queens, York etc, however I only applied to McGill and UBC and got acceptances into both.

I was wondering, does the prestige of these two programs vary, and does this matter when I graduate and want to find a job? Also, how will a Bcom from Mcgill and a Bcom from UBC affect going into MBA in US after undergraduate studies?

I applied to UoT also, however not for the Commerce program, but for Ethics Society & Law. Its my dream program, however thinking in pratical terms it would be a lot harder to find a job with a degree from this program than from BCom.

Any advice? Thanks in advance for the help, I'd really want a third person's point of view!
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Replies to: BCom: Mcgill or UBC?

  • CalcruzerCalcruzer Registered User Posts: 4,832 Senior Member
    McGill is considered the top Canadian school overall--so I'd probably choose that. Both schools have great locations, though--so this makes it a very difficult choice.
  • koitikoiti Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    Mcgill's considered the top school in Canada.. is this for Commerce? I know Mcgill gained its prestigious reputation through its medical school howeve I am not sure about commerce.

    Montreal and Vancouver are both great cities, however the Mcgill campus is definitely very small.. it does not compare to UBC's campus at all, all the buildings are very old.
  • sammy101sammy101 Registered User Posts: 124 Junior Member
    hey man, I know this is kinda late but I highly recommend choosing McGIll over UBC. I myself go to Schulich-York and know for a fact that out of the Canadian schools, McGIll is one of the top choices for Investment banking recruitment outside of Canada. Its name brand is better than UBC's in Canada and especially in the states....Whenever you hear of a Canadian who is working on Wall St, he/she almost always went to McGIll management/Ivey.

    This is just my opinion as im sure there both great programs but I think its stupid to choose one school over the other because you like the condition of ones buildings over the others. Good Luck
  • nodnardnodnard Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    For posterity's sake:

    There is no comparison between McGill and UBC when it comes to prestige and job opportunities. McGill is on a level shared by only a few other schools in Canada (Ivey at Western, Toronto, Queens), and while UBC is probably right behind those, it's a BIG dropoff.
  • koitikoiti Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    Thanks for the replies and the advice. Sammy, I'm not saying I'm choosing UBC over Mcgill because of the buildings, but environment is something important to me and Mcgill simply doesn't compare. The campus is very small and facilities are minimal.

    However in terms of academics I do agree that Mcgill is more prestigious.. but I thought that the UBC Sauder School of Business was pretty well known. So in terms of Commerce, I thought Mcgill and UBC would be quite similar..

    Since I also got into UT (I didn't apply commerce), I also thought of going there then transferring in second year... but do you guys know if I would be disadvantaged to transfer into Commerce in 2nd year?
  • sammy101sammy101 Registered User Posts: 124 Junior Member
    Between McGill and UBC, im sure their quality of academics is pretty similar but when it comes to business programs, the stuff you learn is pretty similar whereever you go. So you have to consider things such as quality of the student body and recruiting. In which case, I believe McGIll is superior. UBC is not that well known in Ontario forget the states, whereas MgIll has probably the best rep. of any canadian school to the states. Remember, this may perhaps play a part when you go for your MBA...as the admissions people may be aware of McGIll (I've also seen in resume books people that graduated from McGIll management and have ended up at Wharton MBA but never UBC) but not UBC.

    As opposed to UT, I would say unless you really want to stay in TO or something, still go with McGill. UofT commerce's undergrad business program doesnt have the best recruiting and its not even guaranteed that you could successfully transder in.

    Also, im sure the environment at McGill is just fine, in fact people almost always speaks highly about it. I mean, just a couple years ago it was ranked among Playboys top Party schools. Anyways, in the end there all great schools and go with whatever you want, since almsot everything I know about these programs is through second hand knowledge and not through experience.
  • futurenyustudentfuturenyustudent Registered User Posts: 5,366 Senior Member
    Well you got about....*looks at clock* 15 hours.
  • koitikoiti Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    Thanks a lot. I don't know anyone who attends UBC/Mcgill for the Commerce program, thus I have no student insight into the programs. Talking to my parents, they tell me to go wherever I think I'll belong more.. I'm a very athletic person and the sports program at UBC is the best in Canada I've heard? Largest intramural or something. I guess I'm biased cos I lived in Vancouver before but now I'm all the way in Hong Kong.

    The campus is small but I guess the best thing is that Montreal's such a diverse city.. I don't speak any french but I guess living there would change everything.. it'll be a good opportunity to learn and to meet people from all over the world.

    The dorms look pretty crappy though.. I visited this summer and was pretty shocked at how old everything was. Mcgill seems to be seriously underfunded and doesn't have the money to improve the state of the school..

    Basically its Mcgill for academics, and UBC for the environment. Le sighh.
  • nodnardnodnard Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    McGill endowment=$800+ MM. McGill students=30,000 total.

    UBC endowment=$700MM. UBC Students=45,000.

    Your judgment of facilities is completely superficial.
  • koitikoiti Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    Yes but I've visited both schools and seen the state of their residence and facilities. You can't deny that stuff in McGill is old and definitely not up to par, the technology available does not compare to UBC at all.
  • nodnardnodnard Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    What'd you start this thread for? If you're so set on UBC, just go there! It's your career you'll be hampering, but hey, they have nice buildings.
  • naurunauru Registered User Posts: 1,158 Senior Member
    I have also heard from people who have attended both schools that facilities and residence are far superior at UBC. Plus Vancouver is just a much nicer city than Montreal imo.

    Furthermore, both UBC and McGill are 2nd tier in Canada for commerce. The overall brand name of McGill makes up for that somewhat, but the overall brand name of UBC doesn't as much.

    Anyway, it's up to you. Neither choice is going to lead to vastly different levels of opportunity after graduation.
  • nodnardnodnard Registered User Posts: 467 Member
    "Anyway, it's up to you. Neither choice is going to lead to vastly different levels of opportunity after graduation."

    That's completely wrong. People in Canada don't even respect UBC; why would U.S. employers?

    The average salary of a UBC commerce grad is under $40,000, while the average of a McGill commerce grad is $50,000. The average salary of a McGill grad in ibanking is $78,000 compared to $65,000 at UBC. Only 13% of UBC grads go international (and 90% of those go to Asia, not the US), while 19% of McGill grads work in the USA/Int'l (and I'll bet most of that is US employment). 77% of UBC grads stay in BC itself; 43% of McGill grads find work outside the province.

    Lazard, GS, McKinsey, etc...all actively recruit at McGill. The same can't be said for UBC.

    Finally, a solid 20% of UBC grads remain unemployed at graduation. While McGill doesn't publish that statistic, I'll be willing to bet it's lower at McGill, because of all the other indicators.

    So for the last time: McGill, Ivey, Queens and UofT are the only tier-one schools in Canada if you want a good job and a recognizable brand-name. Call McGill's b-school tier-two all you want: it doesn't change the fact that it has tier-one quality hiring. And for business school, isn't that all that really matters?
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