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Accepted, Rejected, Waitlisted

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Replies to: Accepted, Rejected, Waitlisted

  • ehh789ehh789 Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    Accepted - 12
    Reject - 0
    Waitlist - 15
  • evanh14evanh14 Registered User Posts: 473 Member
    Accepted - 12
    Reject - 0
    Waitlist - 16
  • ekmy326ekmy326 Registered User Posts: 17 New Member
    Accepted - 12
    Reject - 0
    Waitlist - 17
  • sen14rgirlsen14rgirl Registered User Posts: 8 New Member
    Accepted - 13
    Reject - 0
    Waitlist - 17
  • eyemgheyemgh Registered User Posts: 4,721 Senior Member
    Just an FYI, this list will be heavily skewed because those who are waitlisted will have the highest uncertainty and thus attachment to this board. Those accepted and denied have largely moved on.
  • l2equieml2equiem Registered User Posts: 118 Junior Member
    Accepted - 1
    Rejected - 0
    Waitlisted - 1
  • BluePoodleBluePoodle Registered User Posts: 189 Junior Member
    edited March 2014
    Not sure what this thread is trying to prove. But here is what you really need to look at from their Common Data Set for last year.
    Applied - 14,778
    Admitted - 8,027
    Enrolled - 1,371
    Offer Waitlist - 3,480
    Accepted WL Placement - 1,737
    Admitted from Waitlist - 39

    Doing the math, that means 3,271 were rejected. Apparently not too many of them are on CC or at least want to admit on CC that they were rejected.

    Not sure how it can be considered "Tuffs Syndrome" when they admitted over 50% of applicants?

    http://www.case.edu/president/cir/pdfiles/updated/cds201213.pdf

    Accept your spot on the WL if you want to and move on to your other opportunities while keeping in touch with CWRU. If you never intended to accept your admission, why do you care? Move on and focus on the choices you do have!

    Best to each of you on the WL!
  • Sdgal2Sdgal2 Registered User Posts: 847 Member
    Here are last years stats:
    Applied: 18,400
    Accepted: 7,200. (39.13%)
    Denied: 5,685
    Waitlisted: 5,515
    I am looking for info on waitlist admittances from last year...

    This year: 21,600 applicants...if they accept 7200 again, acceptance will be 33.33%
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    @BluePoodle, "Case Syndrome" (formerly Tufts Syndrome) has nothing to do with how many you admit, it is whether the applicants you do NOT admit are because they were overqualified. I personally think Case admissions are looking at the FAFSA and if they see too many schools better than them, they are waitlisting the applicant. Or how about another approach -- take the top applicants (perhaps those above your 75%tile in grades and test scores), and decide which of those gets your big merit scholarships and waitlist the rest. You figure that is the only reason the high-stats kids applied, so if they aren't getting the big merit aid, then they won't come anyway so don't take them. Or a combination thereof. I am not saying they don't have every right to do that, but they should make it clear up front, and they should admit the ones who really do want to go as demonstrated by interest.
  • bodanglesbodangles Registered User Posts: 9,185 Senior Member
    Not sure how it can be considered "Tuffs Syndrome" when they admitted over 50% of applicants?

    And the applicants they didn't admit were partially below the averages and partially ABOVE, making them somehow "overqualified."
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    Yeah, look at this thread to see some seriously "over-qualified wait-listed kids".

    https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/case-western-reserve-university/1625927-thread-for-waitlisted-student-please-post-a-summary-of-stats-and-financial-aid-y-n.html#latest

    One thing I saw is that some of the high-stats kids applied for PPSP, which I suspect is their full-ride, automatic medical thingy. It looks like they might have wait-listed all the kids who didn't get it, assuming those kids wouldn't be attending if they didn't get it. That would make some sense on their part ...
  • BluePoodleBluePoodle Registered User Posts: 189 Junior Member
    edited March 2014
    @daddio3,
    If you think there aren't ANY highly qualified applicants out of the 7000+ students that CASE did offer admissions to, then there is indeed a problem. And being a parent of a CASE student and meeting and getting to know some of her peers, I can state that CASE doesn't just look at numbers. They, like most universities are looking for well rounded students from a variety of backgrounds. And just so you are clear, universities are not allowed to see what other colleges and universities receive a copy of the FAFSA or CSS.

    As I stated earlier, accept your spot on the WL if you want to and move on to your other opportunities while keeping in touch with CWRU. If you never intended to accept your admission, why do you care? Move on and focus on the choices you do have! It does no good to complain. CWRU is a PRIVATE institute and can decide not to admit applicants (as over qualified as they may be) if they believe they are NOT going to accept. They do not discriminate based on FA needs. They may not offer FA to students being offered a spot of the WL if there are no funds available.

    As a parent of a current student, I have only praise for the University. They have been even better than I hoped they would at offering my daughter a great education, college experience, and generous with our personal FA needs. The staff has always been courteous and helpful and returned my calls, answered my questions, etc.

    I can only hope that your son or daughter finds a university that fits their needs and offers them the same great experience. I wish you the best and hope you get over the anger of your child being WL'd. I understand, as my DD was denied and WL'd at some of her hopeful college choices too. But it worked out in the end and if your child applied to a variety of universities, I believe it will work out for your family too.
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    edited March 2014
    @BluePoodle, I think Case is a good school, and I know there are fabulous students there. But what they did, soliciting high-end students and then waitlisting a lot of them is wrong, and I stand by that. Did you look at the kids on the thread I posted? As for the money, Case is need-aware -- look it up anywhere. By definition, that means they DO discriminate based on FA needs. Now schools like Reed only do it for the marginal kids, so maybe Case is the same way, and I actually believe that is a great business model. Lots of good schools are also need-aware, but for you to say they are not is just misinformed.

    Besides agreeing with you that it IS a good school, and that yes, there are some strong students there, you are also right that it is time for me to move on. My kid got two schools he really wanted, so you are right that I really don't care. But some kids did care and had the stats, ECs, and showed sufficient interest to deserve to be admitted. They were waitlisted because their applications were too strong, and that is a travesty.
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  • BluePoodleBluePoodle Registered User Posts: 189 Junior Member
    edited March 2014
    @daddio3,
    Well then I guess we will have to just agree to disagree then.

    According to CollegeBoard's website:
    https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-university-search/case-western-reserve-university?searchType=bf_site&q=&bf_cat=bf_

    "This school practices need-blind admissions."
    72% Applied for needs based FA
    86% Were judged to have a Need & 86% were offered FA
    70% Received 100% FA Meet (Although I know Loans were included in this number)

    EVERY school solicits "high-end" students and NOT every one of those students gets accepted. Not every "deserving" student CAN be admitted. It's a small school and even if they accepted those with perfect GPA's and Test Scores, they would still have to reject some students. And honestly, those are not the only factors that make a "Strong or Deserving" student.

    Those who were WL'd by CASE, if they really want in and plead their case and were THAT strong of an applicant, will be considered if they have spots available from the WL. But I fail to see how CASE's marketing to these so called "high-end" students is any different than Ivies, or UofChicago, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc WashU are any different? They too solicit to these students and they too reject and wait list these students. Is a WL any different than a rejection really? Only based on how the student responds. If the student pursues the school and can make their case, they MAY have chance. Does it matter that they received tons of marketing material or had free app or paid a fee? No!

    Last point, It was nice of you to also concede that there are "SOME" strong students at CASE. Again, just glad I don't have to deal with parents and my DD doesn't have to deal with students that feel this way about them and their school because that would also be a travesty.
  • Daddio3Daddio3 Registered User Posts: 625 Member
    I will say one more time that Case is a very good school, and I apologize for my wording that last part -- there are LOTS of strong students at Case, and there are some AMAZING ones (similar to the ones I have been referring to who were waitlisted). I hope you are right that they will find room for some of those amazing waitlisted kids who really wanted to go there.

    I actually used Wikipedia, which says they are neither need-blind nor give full need to students. If you have better information, perhaps you can get the Wiki entry fixed :-)

    I guess I see what you are saying regarding their marketing -- I have lost count of how many U Chicago brochures I have recycled.

    But I really believe they looked at all the kids who applied and deserved large merit scholarships, and the kids they chose not to give a scholarship were waitlisted rather than accept them with smaller merit and have them go elsewhere. So they were waitlisting worthy kids to protect yield, which was my whole point. They should have accepted those kids with smaller merit IF they showed interest, and taken the little yield hit that may have resulted.

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