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Christian colleges for a student who is not politically conservative?

avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
edited December 2013 in Christian Colleges
Any suggestions? Our daughter wants to apply to both secular and Christian colleges. She publican does not want to be the only centrist, non Right Wing Republican there.

I understand. We attend a church that is pretty well mixed politically. It's a non denominational church that is loosely Charismatic.

Are any Christian colleges like that? She would want College Democrats to be permited on campus, for example.

My husband graduated from The King's College in Briarclif Manor (in it's previous incarnation) and I am a graduate of Stony Brook University (secular SUNY Flag Ship college.

I'd prefer not to argue about this with anyone. By that, I mean her political beliefs.
Honestly, we would both prefer to see her at a Christian school.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
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  • calla1calla1 2091 replies26 threads Senior Member
    I definitely think she should check out Azusa Pacific. Very committed Christians in an atmosphere of political and intellectual freedom.

    Just checked and yes, they have College Democrats among their registered student organizations.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    I should have said - we live in Eastern Ohio. Not more than 5 or 600 miles away.

    Thanks though.
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  • CreeklandCreekland 7307 replies95 threads Senior Member
    Is she looking urban, suburban or rural? What major? What stats? There are plenty out there - too many to name without knowing a little more than location. In general, stay away from the noted conservative types (Cedarville, Liberty, Grove City) and she'd probably be fine. Eastern? Messiah?
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  • vipstephenvipstephen 85 replies29 threads Junior Member
    This is sort of absurd. I am a dedicated conservative who is going to apply to Cornell, and I don't freak out when I realize that I'll be one of the few people there who isn't a left wing nut. If she loves the school, then she should go for it...don't like political boundaries stop her...
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  • mellorunnermellorunner 72 replies6 threads Junior Member
    @vipstephen - I would say there is big difference between being a conservative on a massive campus like Cornell and being a liberal on a far smaller campus. No matter how left leaning the majority of students at Cornell may be the sheer size of the campus means you're far more likely to also find an active and vibrant conservative minority, both in students and professors. On the other hand, going to a school with maybe 2000 students makes it harder to find that minority. Sure, you may find a small number of liberal leaning students, but far fewer than in a large school, and they will be a far less active portion of the community.

    To put it another way, I'd bet on seeing a pro-life group at Cornell long before I would bet on a pro-choice group at Cedarville.
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  • HuntHunt 26787 replies131 threads Senior Member
    Take a look at Wheaton College in Illinois. Possibly also Houghton in New York.
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  • 2redhares2redhares 173 replies15 threads Junior Member
    Look at St. Edward's University in Austin, TX. It is Catholic, but very laid back and hands off. Austin is a liberal oasis and she will find many students there that are not politically conservative, but are Christians.
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  • 2redhares2redhares 173 replies15 threads Junior Member
    Sorry, missed you mentioning 600 miles or less. Just dismiss my comment.
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  • AboveTheLawAboveTheLaw 28 replies0 threads Junior Member
    I second Wheaton College in Illinois. The administration is generally apolitical, and there's a significant number of liberal students. There is also a College Democrats club and a Feminists Club on campus.
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  • RedEyeJediRedEyeJedi 382 replies64 threads Member
    Stop with the US-versus-THEM mentality. If you want to relate open-minded colleges to "left-wing nuts" who actually make progress in the fields of science and education than so be it. Maybe your daughter could afford to expand her mind and have her preconceived notions of the world challenged rather than packing her into an institution with people who have narrow minded views of the world (*cough* any institution that adheres itself to a dogma). In the end, prestigious universities have a high correlation with liberal ideologies.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    It's not at all absurd. You will be fine at Cornell. I am sure that they have a chapter of Intervarsity Christian Fellowship on Campus, College Republicans, or Campus Crusade.
    Places that are liberal, offer those types of things.

    My daughter's stats are 3.70, SAT 620 verbal 650 math 650 writing. Her extracurricular activities are solid and include secular and non secular activities.

    Secular colleges that she is intending to apply to include Colgate,(NY) Clark University (Massachusetts) Union College, (NY) Skidmore College (NY) Rochester Institute of Technology (depending on her major) College of Wooster (Ohio) and Earlham in Indiana.

    She is unsure of her major and beginning her Junior year in the fall.
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  • CreeklandCreekland 7307 replies95 threads Senior Member
    RIT? That seems odd compared to her other schools - the rest all "fit." If I were to see a Rochester school I'd expect UofR more than RIT, but...

    For other suggestions...

    You'll want some of the higher level Christian schools so you could keep Messiah on the list, but I personally would eliminate Eastern. Have you checked into Hope, St Olaf or Calvin (the latter might be 'borderline' for you)? Wheaton should also still be looked at IMO. Taylor too (in IN). Is MA too far away? If not, I've heard good things about Gordon...
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  • 3togo3togo 5218 replies15 threads Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    how about the Jesuit schools such as Georgetown, Marquette, etc ... these schools are built on a religious underpinning and have pretty even handed student bodies and education practices.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    I second mellorunner. A large secular campus is inclusive by nature. Not supportive, of your beliefs, but they don't care about them. If you are friendly, a good study group member, and willing to supply notes for missed classes, you are OK.

    I am a graduate of such a college and I spent my first 3 years at Clark University which while not terribly large, is known for it's social and political atmosphere. There were several Christian fellowship groups at both.

    She would not be comfortable at a college with an "Us or Them" mentality. We have raving liberals and raving conservatives at our church - with many somewhere in the middle yet willing to talk about such issues.

    She is excited about voting and she will not be voting for a Republican candidate in any election. Her father and I have never voted Republican.

    One of the reasons why we are suggesting a Christian college, is the very real possibility of meeting her future spouse at college. It happens all the time at college - especially Christian college.

    We would also like her to make friendships that build her faith and nourish it. She currently attends a very small Christian school where she is a decided minority when it comes to all things political and social. She is also an ethical vegetarian and a few of the male students are hunters. A few means half of the boys in her class, which numbers six.

    She would not date a hunter.

    I know that Wheaten has a good academic reputation, however I thought that it was very conservative. I will look into it with her.

    How about - Gordon, Eastern University, Roberts Wesleyan, Indiana Wesleyan, (the last may be way too Conservative) and Evangel. The last would seem really too conservative to us, but there is a girl in church who is moderate who loved it.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    R.I.T. because she is interested an Architecture, Art and possibly engineering.
    She is also interested in Art and design and RIT has all of that.
    It's a little atypical as institutes of technology go. Liberal arts are also solid there.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    Creekland, Massachusetts is on the "far end" of where we would like her to attend, but we would be OK with it.

    You have some good ideas.

    Essentially, places that are *NOT* like Liberty, Bob Jones and Oral Roberts. She has two cousins who went to the last and she terms them "Holy Rollers".

    She also listens to a mix of secular and Christian music. Alternative type music - nothing "pop". CCM makes her gag.

    She does not "dress Christian" as do her cousins.

    Shops at thrift stores and boutiques, makes some of her own clothes, goes to Forever 21.

    Typical church outfit - a thrift store vintage sweater over a camisole, skinny jeans and sandals, or a skirt and Doctor Marten boots with tights or leggings.

    My FIL attended Houghton and he is ultra conservative.
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  • HuntHunt 26787 replies131 threads Senior Member
    My FIL attended Houghton and he is ultra conservative.
    I know a counter-example, so you might want to look at whether there is a spectrum there. I think they do have a college Democrats group.

    I suppose you could also look at non-religious schools where there are likely to be strong Christian groups--this will be true of many in the Southeast.
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    I should also add - she does not want anyplace "Southern". She does not really like anyplace or any thing "Southern".

    Florida might be an exception, because airfare from Cleveland is inexpensive. And Florida isn't "Southern" in the same way.

    The "possibility of meeting her spouse" thing is driving this to some degree as is an opportunity to meet Christian peers who share her beliefs. At church, she has been able to do this. At school, not so much.

    Catholic colleges would not fill the bill in terms of a place to meet a future spouse - although there are arguably more good Catholic schools, and more students that share her perspectives at RC colleges than at Evangelical Christian colleges.
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  • CreeklandCreekland 7307 replies95 threads Senior Member
    You asked about Eastern... culturally, yes, it would work. Academically I think they would be a little light considering her scores. You'd have to decide how much that mattered.

    Definitely don't dismiss the secular schools based on finding a spouse or whatever. There are very nice Christian groups at most secular schools. There are also those at Christian schools who are only there because mom + dad would only pay for Christian...

    On a different note... it is annoying whenever I hear of someone who "would never vote for a ______" (insert party of choice). Being rather independent and often having a split ticket when I vote - totally based upon individuals running and how well I feel they could do their job - it just bugs me to hear of such closed minds. When I get a student who mentions something like that at school we often have a conversation... usually ending well IMO. ;) But I digress...
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  • avalon249avalon249 54 replies6 threads Junior Member
    Sorry that I annoyed you, but I would not vote for a Republican. Ever. They have nothing to offer a middle class family. People such as Sarah Palin have no business running on a presidential ticket. This is not the party of Eisenhower or Lincoln. It's something different.

    I said that because it's that important to her. Also, as Christians, we find ourselves in the minority quite a bit. We have overheard some really nasty stuff, and my daughter has had it.

    Your advice is good though. Wheaton and Eastern seem ideologically a fairly good match.
    I agree that Eastern is not that competitive.

    There have to be others.

    She is quite interested in Union, Colgate and Clark, in the secular camp. We just wanted her to explore some Christian colleges as well.
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