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Forbes College rankings 2011-2012

mohamed2015mohamed2015 Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
edited May 2012 in College Admissions
what do you think about FORBES college ranking 2011-2012?
Post edited by mohamed2015 on

Replies to: Forbes College rankings 2011-2012

  • FirstMoveFirstMove Registered User Posts: 145 Junior Member
    I don't like rankings that put Yale at #14.
  • mohamed2015mohamed2015 Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
  • chainiwatmjchainiwatmj Registered User Posts: 446 Member
    I always thought that Harvard's #1. What happens to the ranking?
  • DolorousEddDolorousEdd - Posts: 1,274 Senior Member
    I divided it like US News does:

    Forbes Top 50 Universities

    1. Princeton University
    2. Stanford University
    3. Harvard University
    4. University of Chicago
    5. Massachusetts Insitute of Technology
    6. Northwestern University
    7. California Institute of Technology
    8. Yale University
    9. University of Notre Dame
    10. Brown University
    11. Duke University
    12. Boston College
    13. Rice University
    14. Dartmouth College
    15. Tufts University
    16. Columbia University
    17. Emory University
    18. University of Virginia
    19. Georgetown University
    20. College of William and Mary
    21. Cornell University
    22. University of Pennsylvania
    23. Vanderbilt University
    24. University of California - LA
    25. Santa Clara University
    26. University of California - Berkeley
    27. University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill)
    28. Wake Forest University
    29. Boston University
    30. Brandeis University
    31. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
    32. Carnegie Mellon University
    33. Johns Hopkins University
    34. University of Dallas
    35. Pepperdine University
    36. University of Redlands
    37. Washington University in St Louis
    38. Saint Johns University
    39. Trinity University
    40. Loyola University Maryland
    41. Villanova University
    42. Colorado School of Mines
    43. Southern Methodist University
    44. Lehigh University
    45. Clark University
    46. University of California - Davis
    47. University of Rochester
    48. University of Washington - Seattle
    49. Loyola Marymount University
    50. University of Florida

    Forbes Top 50 LACs

    1. Williams College
    2. US Military Academy
    3. Amherst College
    4. Haverford College
    5. US Air Force Academy
    6. Claremont McKenna College
    7. Carleton College
    8. Swarthmore College
    9. US Naval Academy
    10. Wellesley College
    11. Colby College
    12. Pomona College
    13. Vassar College
    14. College of the Holy Cross
    15. Union College
    16. Colorado College
    17. Bates College
    18. Lafayette College
    19. Centre College
    20. Wesleyan University
    21. Whitman College
    22. Bowdoin College
    23. Middlebury College
    24. Scripps College
    25. Kenyon College
    26. Harvey Mudd College
    27. Bucknell University
    28. DePauw University
    29. Bryn Mawr College
    30. Smith College
    31. Sewanee: University of the South
    32. Barnard College
    33. Dickinson College
    34. Hillsdale College
    35. Davidson College
    36. Connecticut College
    37. Lawrence University
    38. St Lawrence University
    39. Virginia Military Institute
    40. Wheaton College
    41. Grinnell College
    42. Skidmore College
    43. Hamilton College
    44. Oberlin College
    45. Wofford College
    46. Rhodes College
    47. Westmont College
    48. St. Olaf College
    49. Knox College
    50. Trinity College
  • mohamed2015mohamed2015 Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
    To be honest, Harvard is a really good school with many successes however it it the most overrated school in the world!! Times are changing

    And i was surprised that the ivy leagues were on the bottom of the list
  • vk77vk77 Registered User Posts: 184 Junior Member
    why is washu #37... and bc can't be better than rice and emory
  • mohamed2015mohamed2015 Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
    I was really happy to see BC up there! Btw, this ranking is not only prestige... It's also the indebtedness of the students, graduation rates, and salary after graduation.
  • DolorousEddDolorousEdd - Posts: 1,274 Senior Member
    Another poster explained the methodology on this thread: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1188930-new-forbes-2012-rankings.html
    Student Evaluations from RateMyProfessor.com (17.5%)
    Predicted vs. Actual Freshman-to-Sophomore Retention Rates(5%)
    Listings of Alumni in Who’s Who in America (10%)
    Salary of Alumni fromPayscale.com (15%)
    Alumni in Forbes/CCAPCorporate Officers List(5%)
    Competitive Awards (7.5%)Student Nationally Competitive Awards(7.5%)

    Personally, I think using things like RMP and Who's Who is pretty inane.
  • phxsikhphxsikh Registered User Posts: 30 Junior Member
    Berkeley at 70? Is Forbes really trying to attract readers at the point where they put bold rankings in place of true analysis.

    Haverford at 7? Maybe for LACs...on the east coast...in philly
  • imasophomoreimasophomore Registered User Posts: 575 Member
    i stopped reading after "ratemyprofessor.com"
  • DolorousEddDolorousEdd - Posts: 1,274 Senior Member
    Berkeley at 70? Is Forbes really trying to attract readers at the point where they put bold rankings in place of true analysis.
    If you look at just the universities, it's #26 (compare to US New #22). Not so different. It looks like they're very different, because US News doesn't combine universities and LACs, and Forbes does.
    i stopped reading after "ratemyprofessor.com"
    Truly, objectivity and reliability at their finest :rolleyes:
  • imasophomoreimasophomore Registered User Posts: 575 Member
    ^because Forbes explicitly says they are rating the strength of the undergraduate program....which is only a factor of the USN&WR rankings
  • mccormickt12mccormickt12 Registered User Posts: 504 Member
    ridiculous... colorado college? most of these colleges i have never even heard of. Berkeley at 70 makes me laugh. But there are so many different college rankings that are based on so many different things. But for overall rankings this is a joke and continues the east coast and private school bias.
  • DolorousEddDolorousEdd - Posts: 1,274 Senior Member
    East coast bias? It does have Stanford over Harvard...

    Anyway, it is bad, but let's not pretend that the whole idea of being able to quantify the whole of an institute of higher education into a little number isn't ridiculous in and of itself.
  • mohamed2015mohamed2015 Registered User Posts: 151 Junior Member
    Look! College ranking change and what your college might have been a year ago might not be the same as this year. I personally think usnews is worse because it in my opinion ranks based on prestige putting all the "Ivy leagues" up in the list only because they are "name brand". And rate my proffesor is just the same as interviewing students that attend that colllege on campus. It is pretty realible and almost accurate so that's no excuse to disaprove of this ranking.
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