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How much does class rank matter?

tacobfftacobff Registered User Posts: 234 Junior Member
edited February 2013 in College Admissions
My school says it doesn't rank the students, however just on the safe side I think I'm in the 60 percentile of my school. However I maintain a good GPA, (3.84 UW, 4.1 W).

Does this affect me in anyway in terms of getting into college? (specifically UC's)
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Replies to: How much does class rank matter?

  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,728 Senior Member
    UCs do not care about class rank as calculated by your high school.

    However, there are some situations where there is indirect class rank influence or relation. Eligibility in Local Context compares your UC GPA with the top 9% UC GPA threshold of your high school (based on UC calculations of the GPAs of previous classes of students at your high school). This may produce an admissions letter at Merced if you are not admitted to any UC that you specifically apply to. In addition, the holistic review looks at your achievements in context to what was available at your high school, and higher ranked students typically have taken more of the most rigorous offerings at their high schools and gotten better grades in them.

    If you are only at the 60th percentile at your high school with a 3.84 unweighted GPA, then your high school either has a lot of grade inflation or a lot of students of high ability and motivation.
  • tacobfftacobff Registered User Posts: 234 Junior Member
    So If I understand this correctly, I should be comparing myself as what I am able to achieve to other schools rather than what I can take in relation to everyone in my school.

    60 percentile might have been an oversight, maybe 30%, but I can think of maybe 60ish kids that have better than me (Grade size is tiny) I don't think the grades are inflated though, unless colleges don't know about it? I think my school sends 25-35 on average to ivy leagues, and I think it sent 22 kids to berkely last year (the school I really wanna go to) so I think its legit. It super competitive, there's a general mantra of needing to be the best at everything and anything academic. Puts a bunch of pressure on you when you get kicked out of a class for anything lower than a B.
  • fogcityfogcity Registered User Posts: 3,228 Senior Member
    60-percentile means that you scored higher than 60% of your grade, and that 39% of your class scored higher than you.

    Your grades relative to other students in your school is relevant, and it is a likely factor in admissions decisions. It is difficult to compare your grades to those of students in other schools since grading policies differ widely from school to school.

    In practice many schools that do not rank have a notion of deciles, and they may share your "decile" when they submit your official transcript to colleges. So if your school does this you are in the fourth decile. This then is a de facto rank.

    The best way to get a sense how well you'll do in your college applications is to see how other students in your school have done in the past. Your school most likely subscribes to "Naviance", a tool that provides this data. Ask your guidance counselor.
  • tacobfftacobff Registered User Posts: 234 Junior Member
    What am I exactly supposed to be looking for naviance?

    I did find the berkely page, and average SAT scores and such, but no previous data
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 76,728 Senior Member
    Basically, you want to look at the scatterplot of last year's accept/reject results on the scatterplot of GPA and test scores. Something like this:

    Yale University - Admissions Graph | Law School Numbers

    (the above is for law school admissions, but a Naviance plot for your high school's students going to a college should be similar)

    Note, however, that some schools have different thresholds by division or major, which can increase "fuzziness" in the dividing line between accepts and rejects. Schools that use more criteria besides grades and test scores may also be "fuzzier" in dividing accepts and rejects.
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