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Merit/Scholarship/Grant Potential: Can you get more money, and when...


Replies to: Merit/Scholarship/Grant Potential: Can you get more money, and when...

  • cccjbaccccjbac Registered User Posts: 13 New Member
    Is she under consideration for any of the named scholarships at UA? Did your D apply to the PPSP program at Case? Has she checked her portal recently as scholarship finalist notifications for PPSP went out within the last week?
    She received the Presidential Scholarship (full tuition, for 4 years, even if she finishes degree in less she can still use the money for a double major or a masters degree) at the University of Alabama.

    She has been invited to apply for several direct admit, or 7/8-yr medical programs, but she didn't want to make that commitment to one school. She wants to choose a medical school different from her undergraduate location. Plus, she was overwhelmed by all the different applications (admission, Honors programs, scholarships, etc) and deadlines, while also playing Varsity Volleyball (as team Captain) deep into play-offs this fall, and keeping up with school. She was under the impression she could apply for those programs once she made a decision on where to go. She asked her guidance counselor if she was more likely to get in if she applied to the 7/8 year programs, and he wasn't much help. Plus, when she toured Rice and asked the same question, they told her that they want a student that wants to be a "Rice" student, not a future medical student. So she thought it was better not to apply.

    She doesn't really want to go to Case either. Well, more like there are other schools that she hasn't heard from that she would prefer. So she also didn't take action on the invitation to apply for a full tuition scholarship at Case because of the timing, lack of time, to complete the requirements. I love Case, but they have several cons when it comes to her ideal school.

    I don't think she realized that she is limited in how much debt she alone can take out. I've heard stories about that, but didn't know it was a hard rule for everyone (I was in the hospital or rehab when those financial aid discussions happened at her school, and we thought she understood that picture). Oops.

    Ideal School:
    -Study Abroad opportunities using tuition dollars for Pre-Med students (not as easy as you'd think)
    -a closed campus feeling, separate from the community
    -small-mid size (5-15K)
    -D1 Football team, or a strong football tradition (hockey was OK for Denver cuz she liked everything else about them)
    -Green-space (for throwing around a football), she likes the large quad feeling
    -Meal options that include a-la carte and all-you-can-eat options
    -some Greek Life (cuz she's curious about it, but not necessarily interested in participating)
    -Outdoor/Adventure opportunities
    -good research opportunities for med school applic
    -close to a city/suburb that offers options off campus (without being "in" the city)
    -cover full college costs would be great, but she is willing to take on debt for a great "fit" (but her parents aren't)
  • cccjbaccccjbac Registered User Posts: 13 New Member
    @Erin's Dad

    That is amazing! I am not very tech-y, don't use the internet as much as I could. But I am now a believer in the magic! I wish I started asking questions a long time ago.
    Thank You!!
  • 3scoutsmom3scoutsmom Registered User Posts: 4,581 Senior Member
    @cccjbac I don't think you can be worrying about an "ideal school" at this point just some place that she won't be gapped. It looks to me that Alabama would be a good fit so she just needs Room and Board and Books.

    She should apply to as many local one time scholarships to help offset the the cost of room and board for the first year, I've heard the first year meal plan is very pricey at UA but her room and board cost should go down in future years when she moves of campus.
  • rvhappynowrvhappynow Registered User Posts: 199 Junior Member
    edited February 3
    @cccjbac WOW. When I started reading your long post, after paragraphs 1 and 3, I was all set to reply to you saying that I could totally relate! I felt your pain of letting my son handle certain things that I wish I'd known about 6-12 months ago, and I also felt somewhat misled. I know that no one meant anything harmful by telling us that, but with his stats, involvement, and everything else, we were constantly pat on the back and felt as though he was a shoe in for wherever he wanted to go, and the money would be rolling in. And I don't say that with one grain of arrogance. He is the most humble kid I know. Which again, is why this is so difficult to watch play out. He's at the very cusp of receiving an out of state waiver, and we are biting our nails, losing sleep, and stressing 24/7. It's the only way he can attend.

    But then, I continued to read your story, and my heart goes out to you! I can, in no way, relate to all of that. We've had struggles and distractions for sure, (too many to name), but nothing like this. I'm hoping that you were able to communicate your story in essays or conversations with financial aid departments. I definitely feel as though visit or phone calls to these places might at least help to plead your case. I know many schools are still offering money. And I will say this. Some schools have a lot better human touch than others. I don't have a list in front of me, but there are still schools that you can continue to apply to, that are great schools, that offer more money. I'll see if I can dig it up, as time is getting tight. God bless y'all, and I'm hoping for the best!!
  • snorkelmomsnorkelmom Registered User Posts: 276 Junior Member
    I hope this doesn't sound harsh. I've read this entire thread and I've seen various suggestions regarding how to make this dream to happen for your daughter, but not many suggestions on how she can help make this dream happen herself. Back in the day, a 4 year college education prepared you for a job... hopefully a higher paying job. It doesn't sound like you are in a position to support her through 8 years of schooling and I'm not sure many people are. I am very concerned about anyone talking about letting a 17 year old take on that kind of debt for a dream. I am suggesting that in order to pursue a medical career, she consider a "career ready" major like nursing. Work a few years in the field (earn very good money) and see if it sticks. I'm sorry for all of the hardships you've endured, but I believe that she needs to understand that you can't finance her dream for her.
  • camoguycamoguy Registered User Posts: 7 New Member
    @cccjbac Your options are limited based upon the schools that your DD applied. UNC I would rule out right now, merit scholarships have been sent to those students already admitted. As a long shot, I would have a discussion with your guidance counselor to see if there is anyway your DD can submit an application to U of W, since you are instate, the total cost is $25k. If you DD would attend one of their locations near your house, then she could save room and board and only pay $10.5k, before books. She can always transfer once your financial situation is figured out. Another option is community college for one or two years - least expensive. Last option is to have her take a Gap year, work and reapply in the fall with a better understanding of the process and potential outcomes.
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 6,997 Senior Member
    edited February 16
    I am really sorry to hear of all your troubles. Your D is clearly a wonderful student. Unfortunately, you have to face the truth. Without her and you going into a lot of debt, your options are limited. I know your child has worked hard and deserves a great college experience, but the idealized vision might not be possible.

    I think you need to consider a gap year seriously. It will give her enough time to apply to the automatic full tuition colleges. She can spend a year working and saving, because it seems likely she will have to have at least some student loans. She also should consider community college. What med schools want to see are high grades and high MCAT scores. Most seasoned posters will tell you that undergrad doesn't matter too much for med school. It's getting high grades that is important.

    I attended CC, and many people do. I enjoyed my college years, even if I didn't have a traditional college experience. I think your daughter should visit the local CC. She may be pleasantly surprised by the range of classes offered. Some CC are quite collegiate in atmosphere. There are clubs, opportunties to do sports, and of course she will meet new people.

    She might want to consider taking the ACT the again to get an even higher score. Maybe she can get a full ride if her score is higher. There aren't that many full ride scholarships around, so she might have to wait a year and reapply.

    I haven't seen @mom2collegekids here yet, but she is the guru on these matters. Maybe she can weigh in. I think you might want to have a frank discussion with your D about the possibility that college may not happen this year. Best wishes going forward.
  • Wien2NCWien2NC Registered User Posts: 965 Member

    full ride available at Troy University. APPLY RIGHT NOW AND SEND ACT SCORE ASAP.

    Millennium Scholar's Award, pays full tuition, room and board. Requirements are 32 ACT and/or 1420 Old SAT 1 (CR & M only) or 1470 New SAT and 3.7 GPA (4.0 scale). Application deadline is March 1st.

    at this point you need to scrap the ideal college wish list and replace it with "Most Affordable" -- and of the schools on your list that leaves Alabama.

    Your room and board year 1 will be biggest expense. however, she can immediately pursue an RA position for subsequent years. depending on UA's policy, that could cover room or room + meal plan, plus secure housing for years 2-4.

    she can also pursue these competitive scholarships once she begins:

    the personal catastrophes your family has experienced should give your daughter pause about taking on massive college debt. life has a way of refusing to cooperate with our best-laid plans. the debt she may be considering taking on would be very difficult to pay off under the best of circumstances. what happens if life throws her another curveball? it could ruin her future. she really needs to focus on minimizing college debt.

    she could look at Alabama-Huntsville and Alabama-Birmingham to see if they may be less expensive than UA.

    also she might consider commuting to a directional Wisconsin state university if that would be less expensive and if there is one near you.

    i will repost this website so you can comb thru for other options:

    if you decide to take a gap year and reboot the process, you might have a wider selection of affordable options -- especially if she can retake the ACT and score a 34 or higher.
  • threebeansthreebeans Registered User Posts: 301 Member
    @cccjbac You've certainly had a load on your plate. Your daughter sounds a lot like my son - very high achieving Wisco kid who wouldn't apply to in state schools and wants to go to medical school . Have you visited Drake? I was so impressed when we did, and it's not rural, Des Moines is a city of over 500,000 people with about 4 hospitals that the pre med kids can job shadow and work in. Their professors actively help kids build their "resume" to apply for medical school, too. Frankly, I am rooting for my son to pick it! They're also building new biology buildings that will be opening Fall 2017. Also Des Moines was listed by Forbes as the best city in America for young professionals. Go Bulldogs :)
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