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Likely Letters for URMs?


Replies to: Likely Letters for URMs?

  • sgopal2sgopal2 Registered User Posts: 2,815 Senior Member
    Duke has a special fly-in program for Black students. All of the students who are targeted for this program are offered a invitation to BSAI weekend, which takes place before the RD decisions are out. All of the students who are invited receive a "likely" letter.

    More details here:


  • theloniusmonktheloniusmonk Registered User Posts: 856 Member
    @SuperGymnast_04 "I certainly don't think I'll have any admissions preference for being a URM.

    You will for sure get some preference at a lot of selective colleges, but you can't assume that alone will get you in. And as a chemistry major, you have a second hook being a female applying into stem programs. Good luck!
  • planner03planner03 Registered User Posts: 1,184 Senior Member
    edited July 15
    @lookingforward I can only speak of my own son's experience but of the 7 he attended they all indicated during the visit that the odds of admission were almost a lock. At least for him they were true to their word and he received a variety of likely letters, top merit offers, and "special incentives" from the no merit schools to boot.
  • justverycuriousjustverycurious Registered User Posts: 68 Junior Member
    The strong athletic recruits by the Ivy's will almost always get a likely letter, usually before November, many in the first week of Oct of their senior year. But the URMs may have similar influence on admissions as those who are applying as a legacy, which means given the same stats among other applicants, the favor will tip towards the urms and legacy students.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 24,599 Senior Member
    Planner, I just wouldn't call it a lock if it's way early in the game. There are so many issues.
  • zomaya99zomaya99 Registered User Posts: 20 New Member
    @planner03 Where are you getting those statistics on African-American students from?
  • SuperGymnast_04SuperGymnast_04 Registered User Posts: 45 Junior Member
    ^ @planner03 I'm also curious- I've tried to find applicants to Cornell and others divided by race, with no success. After visiting, one of my favorite things about Cornell was its diversity, so I'm sure the number's pretty high.

    I didn't know fly in programs were so highly regarded! Which ones did your son go to @planner03? I just applied to a diversity fly in at Swarthmore and I have PEEP to apply to later... are there any others people can think of? I looked at BSAI but it appears from the website that it's in the spring, so maybe it has already passed.

    Thanks again!
  • theloniusmonktheloniusmonk Registered User Posts: 856 Member
    Here's a site with older data on number of AAs applying with their acceptance rates compared to overall acceptance rates.


    For Cornell, the black acceptance rate is similar to the overall acceptance rate.
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 6,927 Senior Member
    @theloniusmonk , that is actually a very interesting chart. However, it's quite out of date now, being nine years old.

    Here is the most recent one for RUs:

    And here is the most recent list for LACs:
  • planner03planner03 Registered User Posts: 1,184 Senior Member
    Yes, I got the info from the source @Lindagaf posted.
  • planner03planner03 Registered User Posts: 1,184 Senior Member
    edited July 16
    @SuperGymnast_04 There are so many fly-ins!! I don't think I'm allowed to post links for other college blog websites but two good sources to google are "get me to college 2017 diversity fly ins" and "college green light 2017 diversity fly-ins."

    My S went to WashU, Penn, Williams, Bowdoin, Amherst, MIT, JHU

    He was accepted to but declined fly-ins to: Columbia, Chicago, Pomona, Washington and Lee, Whitman, Colby, Middlebury

    Others fly-ins off the top of my head that he didn't apply to: Rice, Harvey Mudd, Scripts, Bates, Lehigh, Lafayette, Emory, Wesleyan, Colorado College, Barnard, Colgate, Hamilton, Davidson, Carleton, Haverford, Grinnell, Kenyon, Mt. Holyoke, Oberlin....

    BSAI is not something you apply to. It is a visit sponsored by Duke's BSA for accepted students.
  • theloniusmonktheloniusmonk Registered User Posts: 856 Member
    @planner03 - so there are fly-ins before acceptances go out while the student is applying? Didn't know that, thought it was just for accepted students (early and RD).
  • planner03planner03 Registered User Posts: 1,184 Senior Member
    @theloniusmonk Yes all those I mentioned and many more are during Sept, Oct. and early Nov. pre-application.
  • itsvitsv Registered User Posts: 1,363 Senior Member
    For fly-ins, be sure to ask the admission office about them because I know of some colleges who are not on the list who have done them in the past like Ohio State and Purdue. For the OP be sure to reach out to the admission staff in charge of recruitment for AA students or "multi-cultural students." Sometimes there will be events targets at URM students in your area. For example when my DD was applying, Cornell had an event for URM students where they gave fee waivers for applications and the regional admission director walked students through the application and gave my DD tips for applying. Also be sure you are aware of deadline for fly-ins because some fo them fall over the summer.
  • SuperGymnast_04SuperGymnast_04 Registered User Posts: 45 Junior Member
    @itsv Cornell CALS is one of my top choices! Do you know what the name of the program your daughter did was? I don't think I've seen any fly-ins for Cornell, but I have been looking.
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