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College Admissions Statistics Class of 2022

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  • jojo99jojo99 10 replies2 threads New Member
    This is a somewhat related issue concerning colleges and their attempt to lower admit rates and raise yields. When a student is accepted, do some (all?) schools give priority in campus housing to students who commit early (pay their deposit)? Something on one of the UChicago post suggests this is the case. If so, all I can say is enough is enough! Give these poor kids some time to make a choice!
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  • collegemomjamcollegemomjam 2111 replies1 threads Senior Member
    @jojo99 I think only some schools do that, not all. But it does seem the schools all like to keep giving more and more incentives to apply ED.

    I do college advising and I have a client that was in touch with an admissions counselor at a school that he will likely attend. He ended up applying RD because we were pretty confident he would get in (although still a little uneasy given all of the ED-ness these days!). Anyway, in the fall he was in touch with her with some questions and she point blank asked him to apply ED! I thought that was interesting. I thought it was a bold move.
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  • callmeLENNYcallmeLENNY 5 replies0 threads New Member
    Wesleyan University

    Application: 12,788
    Admit: 2186 (ED1+2 407)
    Admit Rate: 17.09%
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  • doschicosdoschicos 26641 replies267 threads Senior Member
    "I just don't understand why all colleges are not making those statistics easily accessible for applicants and why it seems at some schools it is impossible to know the ED admittance rate and how much of the class is filled via that method. Why hide that?"

    The worst offenders to me are those colleges which don't publicly publish common data sets. I'm looking at you Columbia, Chicago, and WUSTL!
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  • bronze2bronze2 263 replies6 threads Junior Member
    I think WUSTL does publish. But JHU and Emory also don't publish.
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  • GrusMinionGrusMinion 167 replies1 threads Junior Member
    @jojo99 Completely agree.
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  • doschicosdoschicos 26641 replies267 threads Senior Member
    @bronze2 Thanks for pointing that out. That's a policy change then as WUSTL did not publish them back a few years ago.
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  • Sue22Sue22 6928 replies121 threads Super Moderator
    I'm not sure there's a point to rushing to release data for the current year. At this point students have applied or not and hopefully no one's making their final decision based on whether a school has succeeded in lowering their acceptance rate by a few points.

    These statistics will be useful to next year's crop of applicants, but not particularly more so than the data from last year's CDS. It seems to me people want the numbers either out of pure curiosity or so that they can crow about or lament the increasing competitiveness of particular schools. There's nothing wrong with these reasons but I also think there's nothing nefarious behind schools delaying the release until after they've seen a bit more about their yield and how many kids they may need to take from the waiting list. Do we all need another reason to be anxious about college admissions? :)

    Not releasing the CDS at all is another matter.
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  • AlmostThere2018AlmostThere2018 1871 replies61 threads Senior Member
    @Sue22 -- I agree with all your points. My oldest is just finishing up college admissions mania and she's fort. to have some great options. My two key take aways are 1) try hard to not let your kid fall in love with just one or two colleges, focus on the similarity across certain types of colleges, and 2) when you figure out what kinds of college they want -- apply to at least 3 to 5 similar colleges. Maybe I'm just stating the obvious, but I've been surprised how many of my D's friends get their heart set on one or two colleges and then get dismayed. It's a numbers game and you gotta play the odds! (But yes it's a pain for kids to write that many essays and parents to pay that much in application fees.)
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  • foosondaughterfoosondaughter 308 replies6 threads Member
    edited March 2018
    sbjdorlo wrote:
    While it's not unethical to practice admissions as UC does (ED I, ED II, EA), I find it distasteful, particularly for students who just don't have enough information or who have high need, and are in no position to apply early.
    I think it is unethical if the school isn't forthcoming with the numbers admitted during any round. This makes it very difficult for students to assess the likelihood of being admitted prior to putting forth the time and money to apply. If a student looks at official, previously reported data for Chicago and sees that the overall admit rate is 8% (https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=university+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050), they may still think they have a slim chance of admission if they otherwise measure up, and may choose to complete Chicago's long application, get recommendations, pay the fee, etc. But the whole time their chance of admission may be less than half of that number. Hiding this is unconscionable, IMHO.


    edited March 2018
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  • ChrchillChrchill 1004 replies25 threads Senior Member
    admit rate is now 7.2% at Uchicago. RD admit is 4%. Plenty of recent stats available on CC based on express numbers given out at UChicago admitted student events. .
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  • sbjdorlosbjdorlo 4896 replies388 threads Senior Member
    @Chrchill, could you post some links to these stats, please? That would be very helpful, thank you.
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  • AnotherCaDadAnotherCaDad 31 replies0 threads Junior Member
    When using stats keep in mind....
    - It's not a lottery with fixed odds. Scores, grades, legacy status, geographic location, major, high school reputation, race will all factor in tremendously. If you have access to stats from your particular high school it'll help to look at those.
    - RD is becoming effectively a waste of time at certain schools, especially those with multiple stages of ED used to fill their incoming class. We were informally told not bother applying at Tulane RD (for example).
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  • ChrchillChrchill 1004 replies25 threads Senior Member
    @sbjdporlo from another post re Uchicago

    "There was another admitted student reception this past weekend. I went and this time I recorded the audio on my phone so I could remember exactly what Dean Nondorf said. Here is a transcript from yesterday's reception.


    Well welcome for those that I have not met, I am Jim Nondorf, Dean of Admissions and I just want to say welcome to the University of Chicago. <<claps>> This has been an incredible year for UChicago...I think its our third year in a row winning a Nobel Prize, there is just about anything you'd want to study, the latest research on the human biome, which has an interesting history, if there are any of you biome people in the group.

    This is the best most amazing class we ever had <<claps>>. At least statistically speaking, you are the smartest, you are the most selective, you are the most diverse, the most whatever, you are it. We've had over 32000 students apply to the University this year and the admit was a little over, so 7.2%. The most selective we've ever been. If you were in the regular round, so if you're like woo-ho I just got in recently, their admit rate was 4%. <<gasps>> And if you were one of those students who we, in the early action round we deferred you and we came to our senses <<laughs>> and admitted you in regular you had a 0.5% admit rate.<<gasps>> Thank you for walking across Lake Michigan to pass the test. <<laughs>>

    Really you are just incredible. Your average SATs were well above 1500 this year, which is insane, so you're very good at cheating. <<laughs>> You've accomplished everything. You've formed everything. You've challenged everything, you name it. You're a wonderful group of students. And I can't thank you enough for your efforts and the time that you put into your essays. I also think that the essay prompts this year will go down in history as the best we've ever done. Because I laughed, I cried, it was better than <inaudible> at reading. Really, especially, for some reason you guys came up with some great ones, around the typos. Some of the very funniest histories and things, and you managed to stay away from the off color things.... audio continued for another 10 mins

    So this confirms the 7% admit rate that @Chrchill posted elsewhere. What shocked me was the extremely low admit rate for those deferred from EA. "

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  • rastapasta00rastapasta00 19 replies0 threads Junior Member
    Wow %7 is low
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  • evergreen5evergreen5 2000 replies38 threads Senior Member
    edited March 2018
    @Sue22 Some of us with current juniors are interested in this year's data rather than the 17-18 CDS because that CDS is affected by College Board's 2016 concordance as it requires Old SAT scores to be concorded to New and then mixed with New. This year's data is virtually all New SAT scores and accordingly is unaffected by the inaccuracies of the 2016 concordance. Unfortunately the 18-19 CDS will not be available until after early apps are due this fall.

    The ever -decreasing acceptance rates are disheartening to say the least when it comes to gauging reaches, matches and safeties. There seems to be a lack of stability in the data, rates and scores alike.
    edited March 2018
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  • cliffhanger2018cliffhanger2018 18 replies0 threads Junior Member
    Is it likely that colleges will dip into their WLs in larger numbers than they have done in the previous years given that the RD acceptance rates are turning out so low? Could this be yet another method to protect yield?
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  • evergreen5evergreen5 2000 replies38 threads Senior Member
    @cliffhanger2018 It may be a reaction to last year's over enrollment at many schools. I might say more yield prediction rather than protection.
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  • collegemomjamcollegemomjam 2111 replies1 threads Senior Member
    What is Chicago's admit rate for EDI and EDII? Anyone know?
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  • ChrchillChrchill 1004 replies25 threads Senior Member
    They had about 32000 applications and accepted 7.2% = 2304.
    We also know they took 4% of RD applicants and 0.5% deferred.
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