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College Admissions Is About to Get Way Less Stressful

Dave_BerryDave_Berry CC Admissions Expert Posts: 2,522 Senior Member
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Replies to: College Admissions Is About to Get Way Less Stressful

  • momofsenior1momofsenior1 Registered User Posts: 698 Member
    And a lot can chance economically during this time period.
  • BananaCar09BananaCar09 Registered User Posts: 27 Junior Member
    Well that really sucks for us
  • BananaCar09BananaCar09 Registered User Posts: 27 Junior Member
    Do you guys think that the prestige of top universities decrease as acceptance rates increase? Will millennial students' degrees from top schools devalue as a result?
  • PublisherPublisher Registered User Posts: 2,417 Senior Member
    International students may fill many vacant seats. Those colleges & universities which offer financial aid to internationals are leading the way.

    Let the US serve the higher education needs of the world--or, at least, be a viable option for hardworking, intelligent & ambitious minds regardless of citizenship.
  • jzducoljzducol Registered User Posts: 346 Member
    ^ Its so true. With over four thousand colleges in US, even if 3900 of them get easier it doesn't change the picture at all, especially on CC.
  • suzyQ7suzyQ7 Registered User Posts: 3,389 Senior Member
    "Those colleges & universities which offer financial aid to internationals are leading the way."

    Any financial aid provided to international students should be taxable (both federal and state) to the university. Why should our tax dollars go to subsidize the world's students? These colleges with huge endowments are giving away their money via FA to international students, and that money (endowment) is not subject to any federal or state tax in the US. Not right.
  • foobar1foobar1 Registered User Posts: 170 Junior Member
    It will not get any easier at the "CC Top Universities" or the Ivy plus schools.
  • HuskymaniacHuskymaniac Registered User Posts: 56 Junior Member
    @suzyQ7
    You are on the money, excuse the pun! Americans should not pay to educate non-Americans, period. Funny how China and India don't put huge tariffs on the importation of an American education. Any university that receives federal tax money for any reason should be forbidden to provide any financial aid to foreign students. If someone wants to start a fund for helping foreign students, great, but any donations to that fund should NOT be tax deductible.

    I'll take this further, the number of international students should be capped at some number. I am not sure what that number should be or if we are there yet but there should be a limit or, in theory, our universities could be filled entirely by foreign students. Now, I know we are no where near that yet but we shouldn't even get remotely close to that hypothetical scenario. Universities are federally subsidized and, therefore, should be filled to some reasonable percent by American students. We should never get close to the scenario where tax payers can't send their kids to college because the schools are full. And, no, I don't care if the international kids have a better resume. Every American kid who wants to go to college should have the opportunity to do so. Back fill with internationals, not the other way around. It is time for China and India to accelerate the expansion of their own higher education systems.
  • PostmodernPostmodern Registered User Posts: 1,085 Senior Member
    ^^^ I think if you applied this rule to all non-profits, including churches and charities, the argument is understandable. I am sure you do not mean to apply this rule just to colleges, right?
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 68,157 Senior Member
    suzyQ7 wrote:
    Any financial aid provided to international students should be taxable (both federal and state) to the university. Why should our tax dollars go to subsidize the world's students? These colleges with huge endowments are giving away their money via FA to international students, and that money (endowment) is not subject to any federal or state tax in the US. Not right.

    The effect would be to greatly reduce the number of international PhD students doing PhD study / research at US universities on the usual research / teaching assistantships. Some of them eventually become Americans making substantial contributions to the US economy and society.

    Would there be enough Americans who want to do PhD study / research to replace them? As it is now, many of the most academically capable Americans choose Wall Street, consulting, medical school, or law school over PhD study.
  • suzyQ7suzyQ7 Registered User Posts: 3,389 Senior Member
    edited May 8
    There are too many PHDs anyway, but that is beside the point. PHDs are not getting FA just to study, they are getting paid to do research. International Undergrads are getting discounts just to study.

    @Postmodern not sure what you are comparing. Colleges are giving gifts (FA) for foreign students to come study. Those gifts are earned tax free. Do charities give tax free money to foreigners?
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