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  • cptofthehousecptofthehouse 29878 replies59 threads Senior Member
    Interesting comment, cpt. Yes, scores can be a little lower, when the gpa is there.


    But if we're still talking about a 3.65, I don't know if I said this before (to this OP.) They look at the transcript, see the pattern of rigor and what classes were less than A-. If it's related to the hoped-for major, that's when it's a little stumble. (And not killer when it's those odd required courses, like gym or drivers ed.)

    But OP, you have persistence and resiliance. This is more than the family $ situation. It's in you. I hope that comes through in the full app package.

    I’m not sure how QB works in terms of order of choices and how colleges pick the students for those precious Match scholarships. But I do know that schools like CMU, CWR, NU, UCh etc, get far far more qualified applicants from their state and within a couple hours from the schools than they can accept without becoming a “local” it “Regional” school rather than national. There are often two distinct stacks for applications for such schools, Regional and other. Geographic diversity is important to them.

    That HKim is from the Chicago area is going to make it tougher to get into his top 3 choices. For the same reasons he wants to stay near to home, others feel the same way. It’s an d pattern. Bowdoin, Middlebury, Davidson, some remote locations , LACs, give better odds.

    I saw some Asian QB matches to UCh and NU. The stats tend to be higher than HKim’s. Research seems to be typical these days, and clearly the NU prof working with him either didn’t have the clout to make a difference admissions, or didn’t choose to use it. What’s interesting is that so many of these applicants have the very same resume, research, publishing, internship that to me sound very impressive, but when on so many applications becomes business as usual. Mykids escaped this trend—internships were in the picture, but not on the scale they are now.

    These schools are reaches. And OP has his safeties, great ones, so it’s wonderful to buy the lottery ticket chances for them. But even with Hooks, doesn’t mean you are a shoo-in.

    That he has QB on his app, will help. But not necessarily enough. I have my fingers crossed that he gets a hit.
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 35118 replies398 threads Senior Member
    When you hit these odd nadirs in confidence, do two things: get off some complaint/discord thread, and remind yourself the following: A whole lotta solid adults on CC believe in me, so I'll trust them, not some transient emotions.

    You're scratching an itch that doesn't need the irritation. Fall back on your resilience.
    Pep talk over.

    I told my kids, what will be will be.
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  • Houston1021Houston1021 1188 replies21 threadsForum Champion Rice Forum Champion
    Many students that do not match on QB match day get admitted to terrific schools with generous merit offers. I am pulling for you. Hang in there.
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  • CottonTalesCottonTales 1364 replies21 threads Senior Member
    It seems that the OP is blaming Questbridge for what he percieves as less than worthy applicants being matched. OP, please remember QB is not matching or accepting the students, the schools are. Your blaming QB is completely wrong. Are you saying that the AOs at those schools dont know what they are doing?
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  • Houston1021Houston1021 1188 replies21 threadsForum Champion Rice Forum Champion
    edited December 2019
    It seems as if many QB schools use their QB matches heavily on URM students. Many of these students come from low performing inner city high schools or impoverished areas. Their "lower stats" may be truly remarkable in the context of their environment. URM means African American and/or Hispanic at a school like Rice. Asian is not a URM but is an over represented group at many of these highly selective schools. Read up on the Harvard lawsuit if you want an insight into the underbelly of college admissions.
    edited December 2019
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  • HKimPOSSIBLEHKimPOSSIBLE 417 replies27 threads Member
    edited December 2019
    @Houston1021 Yep that is what I was thinking was the case (for their areas, they did great).

    @CottonTales Nobody is blaming anyone - the schools I ranked was a long shot anyway and I did so fully knowing it'll be fine not getting matched as I'll have many affordable options down the road.

    I initially thought that day as I described it was not blaming Questbridge for not matching or matching students, but what they advertise; looking at it now, I guess for some their advertisement was true and sound while for others it wasn't necessary.

    I never said that AOs at these schools don't know what they're doing. I think it's completely reasonable for a student to feel confused and frustrated because they have no idea what goes on and it seems to derail slightly from the idea they were conditioned to throughout their education (meritocratic). For sure, if you think of an MIT admit, it's not a 3.8 GPA, 1200 SAT, sub-500 SATII score student (but through Questbridge it can be) and who knows, even without Questbridge they would've been admitted to MIT! It's this uncertainty that's a very hard pill to swallow.

    As I said, I'm extremely excited and happy for those who matched, 0 EFC or not, URM or not, high statistics or not - nobody is saying they shouldn't be matched. The frustration is from the lack of transparency (which can be a good thing, just frustrating).

    For now, I'm just doing what every else is doing: finishing up my regular decision essays.
    edited December 2019
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  • tgl2023tgl2023 266 replies6 threads Junior Member
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    For now, I'm just doing what every else is doing: finishing up my regular decision essays.
    Indeed! THAT is of the utmost importance. Let your mature and forward-looking personality shine throughout your essays, and don't let any of these non-match after-effects, whether originated from you or others, dampen your positive outlook in life. I await your good news in a few months.
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  • lookingforwardlookingforward 35118 replies398 threads Senior Member
    It is meritocratic. But not the hs scheme, not trying to transfer to a better hs. It's the college leap. Not your hs peers competing, but a final pool of many great kids.

    Have fun with those essays. Let shine the "you" that we respect and like. It sometimes helps to imagine it as writing to one of us. Some then relax.

    Try to show the traits. End with growth- show, not just tell.
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  • bgbg4usbgbg4us 1431 replies44 threads Senior Member
    ^^ thanks Lindagraf; I missed that the first time you posted and just sent a link to my kid to read through.

    Hkim - rooting for you! you are navigating this all on a way different level than my own child and I"m impressed.
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  • HKimPOSSIBLEHKimPOSSIBLE 417 replies27 threads Member
    Well, it seems like I have been sayonara'd by Northwestern 3 times in the span of 12 months!

    Guinness Record worthy indeed.
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  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 3017 replies54 threads Senior Member
    Congratulations hkim! Although I am sorry about NU......BUT UIUC for chem engineering or biochem is outstanding!!!! And with full COA being covered you know you are going to college in Fall of 2020!

    It will be interesting to see how the rest of the apps go for you. Have you decided on an ED2 school?
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  • HKimPOSSIBLEHKimPOSSIBLE 417 replies27 threads Member
    edited December 2019
    Yeah, Northwestern...I just have no questions, just meh. It was a long shot anyway, but my school was a "feeder", I published two scientific research pieces in their name, and was pretty active with them through music as well. Just disappointed (not saying I deserved anything) but was hoping that would play into demonstrated interest.

    For ED2, I'm not sure.
    WashU, Case Western, Carleton, BOWDOIN (Yess), Swarthmore, Pomona, and idk, I'm just happy I will have a very affordable and great school to go to this Fall.
    edited December 2019
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  • Mwfan1921Mwfan1921 3017 replies54 threads Senior Member
    edited December 2019
    WashU, Case Western, Carleton, BOWDOIN (Yess), Swarthmore, Pomona,

    Some of these are very different schools....take some time over the next couple of days to really think about the qualities you want in a school. Now that the pressure is off due to the full ride at UIUC you will probably have better perspective when analyzing your choices. Pay attention to the ED2 deadlines...do any of these schools have Dec 15 deadline?

    I'm just happy I will have a very affordable and great school to go to this Fall.

    I hope that you are proud of yourself for persevering through the admissions process! You are almost to the finish line and again free UIUC is an outstanding option!
    edited December 2019
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  • Houston1021Houston1021 1188 replies21 threadsForum Champion Rice Forum Champion
    edited December 2019
    CONGRATULATIONS!!! UIUC is a great school, and a full ride there is terrific. I'm glad doors are starting to open wide for you. My daughter dated a guy from UIUC, and he is getting a great education. He is majoring in supply chain management. He had a wide choice of summer internships and is starting an excellent full time job with Shell Oil in Houston right after he graduates in the spring. Be thankful Illinois has such a generous scholarship program. You have worked hard, and I bet more offers are coming your way.
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  • happy1happy1 23235 replies2300 threads Senior Member
    One more congratulations bon the full ride to UIUC. What a fantastic option to have in your back pocket.
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  • privatebankerprivatebanker 5793 replies84 threads Senior Member
    edited December 2019
    @HKimPOSSIBLE business associate of mine.

    Young guy. Maybe 40.

    UIUC chem engineering grad born in Korea. Emigrated as a child. First gen and low SES.

    Then went to a noted Boston area school for his masters and then to another noteworthy ivy for a mba.

    Now a private equity rock star at a world renowned firm, leading large acquisitions of major emerging tech and pharma and others.

    Sound like a familiar story ?
    edited December 2019
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