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Qualified for MIT?

friedrichgaussfriedrichgauss 0 replies1 threads New Member
12 AP exams (11 5’s and 1 4’s)
1580 SAT
National merit semi finalist
2x MOP/USAMO qualifier
2x USAPhO gold medal
IPHO gold medal
USACO Platinum level
hundreds of awards from mu alpha theta and coding competitions

Is this an auto admit to MIT?

(I’d like to think that my personality isn’t too bad and I can write decent essays)
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  • Waiting2exhaleWaiting2exhale 3087 replies18 threads Senior Member
    "Is this an auto admit to MIT?"

    Is this a serious question?
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  • HPuck35HPuck35 2141 replies17 threads Senior Member
    There is absolutly no such thing as a "auto admit to MIT".

    Your stats are within the range of applicants with a CHANCE for MIT. But there are many like you who will apply. The admit rate is typcially around 7% and that would be your chance.

    MIT does holistic admissions so it way more than just stats and medals that will get you in. There is a whole bunch of information within the admissions pages on the MIT website. Read them and become educated as to what it takes for MIT.
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  • PublisherPublisher 11376 replies152 threads Senior Member
    Doesn't MIT require 12 AP exams with a score of 5 ?
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  • HPuck35HPuck35 2141 replies17 threads Senior Member
    Publisher wrote: »
    Doesn't MIT require 12 AP exams with a score of 5 ?

    No
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  • hebegebehebegebe 2939 replies41 threads Senior Member
    edited June 1
    "Is this an auto admit to MIT?"

    Is this a serious question?
    I say the odds are good.

    MOP qualification means that the OP is among the top few dozen math kids in the country. If the teacher recommendations are positive, with a particular emphasis on “nice”, and you couple that with good essays, chances of admit are high.

    I know a number of kids that made USAMO but didn’t make MOP. Almost all of them were accepted to MIT, and the one that didn’t “settled” for CalTech.
    But there are many like you who will apply. The admit rate is typcially around 7% and that would be your chance.
    Not really. There are typically no more than 30 kids graduating each year who ever made it to MOP, and not all of them choose MIT as their first choice. Some will choose places like Harvard, Stanford, or Princeton and get in early, so MIT never sees their applications. Perhaps 15 kids at this level show up on MIT’s radar each year.

    And this doesn’t even begin to look at the other qualifications, which I know less about.
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  • CU123CU123 3718 replies77 threads Senior Member
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    No your chance is higher than 7% that is the acceptance rate for ALL applicants, some of whom really are not qualified. Just my opinion, with your type of resume its closer to 40% which unfortunately means you still have a decent chance of being rejected. Spend some time on those essays.
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  • DadTwoGirlsDadTwoGirls 6551 replies1 threads Senior Member
    Definitely not auto-admit. Your chances might be slightly better than the overall acceptance rate.

    There are indeed a few applicants who are not qualified, but only a few. MIT tends to draw very well qualified applicants, and still has a low acceptance rate. MIT is not exactly the place where you expect there to be a lot of students who were accepted based on their athletic ability, so you are not going to lose out to academically mediocre super-athletes.

    However, MIT is definitely not a safety for nearly everyone.
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  • Waiting2exhaleWaiting2exhale 3087 replies18 threads Senior Member
    @friedrichgauss : "Is this an auto admit to MIT?"

    @hebegebe : "I say the odds are good."

    Come on, @hebegebe. I know you know the numbers, but the numbers don't tell everything.

    I have to say, the kids I have met from MIT who are undeniably stellar and go on to amaze even themselves by the time they graduate have all been simply unassuming and self-effacing; one was even bubbly.

    Not one of those young people, it seemed to me, would ever have phrased an inquiry regarding their chance for admittance in this way.

    The trajectory for the OP is no doubt stellar, but I would encourage a re-read of CU123's closing statement for...nuance.

    And I will say Good Luck to you, OP, or for whomever it is you are asking.

    The Institute be with you....


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  • OneMoreToGo2021OneMoreToGo2021 663 replies6 threads Member
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    No, there are not many like OP, in fact there are very few.

    OP, if you are female or URM, you are pretty close to auto admit (you never know until you know, but I'd guess 98%+ chance of admission). Otherwise, I agree with @hebegebe that odds are "good".

    I have seen many students both accepted to as well as rejected from MIT. OP's stats and math and science achievements are not just "within range" for MIT, they are near to the top of the pool.

    Congrats on your achievements and best of luck!
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  • hebegebehebegebe 2939 replies41 threads Senior Member
    edited June 2
    Come on, @hebegebe. I know you know the numbers, but the numbers don't tell everything.

    I have to say, the kids I have met from MIT who are undeniably stellar and go on to amaze even themselves by the time they graduate have all been simply unassuming and self-effacing; one was even bubbly.
    You raise an important point. MIT carefully screens for “nice”. I mentioned that in my first post, but didn’t give that the importance it deserves.
    They care a great deal about what the recommendations say about the person and not just about his or her accomplishments. And MIT does a pretty good job with this screening in that these kids do have far less ego than their talents might otherwise suggest.
    Not one of those young people, it seemed to me, would ever have phrased an inquiry regarding their chance for admittance in this way.
    Well, certainly not in public, but perhaps in private. One of my son’s friends was deferred from MIT EA, but did get into a top 25 school EA. Perhaps out of frustration, in a conversation with my son he wondered how others did so much better when he only got into his “safety”. Well that safety is a place that 95 percent of students would be thrilled to attend.

    This is a kid we have known for 10+ years, and this was way out of character for him. He really is a nice kid that teachers loved. He did get admitted to MIT and two of the HYPS schools during regular decision though, and is at MIT today.
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  • ProudTyyProudTyy 22 replies4 threads Junior Member
    Yes, i would think you are auto admit as long as you write good essays. I think a gold medal in any olympiad is an auto-admit.
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  • Waiting2exhaleWaiting2exhale 3087 replies18 threads Senior Member
    @hebegebe : I get it, and the anonymity of this forum may certainly pose the same level of privacy as that relied on in a personal moment.

    I know our really strong students (and as I've said, stellar in this situation) walk the admissions road to places like The Institute and find the lifelong buzz about them and their achievements to be louder and stronger than an internal review and consideration of the possibility that not every door at which they present will open for them. (In your son's friend's case, at least not the first time around.)

    This made me smile:

    "Perhaps out of frustration, in a conversation with my son he wondered how others did so much better when he only got into his “safety”. Well that safety is a place that 95 percent of students would be thrilled to attend."

    I once quickly re-directed one of my children on a flight when she began to detail a friend's high reaches and safeties, parroting her friend's downturned tone when
    a particular 'safety' school was mentioned. So glad I did, as a woman in the row ahead of us heard my daughter's mention (not having caught the sour tone) and engaged us for about 25 minutes on the school, at which her daughter was happily enrolled. She offered to give us information or answer any questions my daughter might have. (Proud to report that daughter shared parts of her own journey, as well as politely inquired of community life at the college in question.)







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  • TheVulcanTheVulcan 639 replies1 threads Member
    OP's stats and math and science achievements are not just "within range" for MIT, they are near to the top of the pool.
    These achievements are not simply "near the top". They are so extraordinary as to be de-anonymizing. There appear to only be two people who made USAMO MOP and won an IPHO gold medal in recent years. One of them, Vincent Bian, is currently an MIT student. Another, Daniel Zhu, who proceeded to win Gold at IMO, also graduated high school last year.

    Perhaps I missed a third...
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  • TheVulcanTheVulcan 639 replies1 threads Member
    TheVulcan wrote: »
    OP's stats and math and science achievements are not just "within range" for MIT, they are near to the top of the pool.
    These achievements are not simply "near the top". They are so extraordinary as to be de-anonymizing. There appear to only be two people who made USAMO MOP and won an IPHO gold medal in recent years. One of them, Vincent Bian, is currently an MIT student. Another, Daniel Zhu, who proceeded to win Gold at IMO, also graduated high school last year.

    Perhaps I missed a third...
    ...Looks like Daniel Zhu is also now at MIT and has just won Putnam:)

    https://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/Putnam/2019/AnnouncementOfWinners2019.pdf
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