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Impact on College Reopening: 14-Day quarantine or penalty in NY, NJ and CT

LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
New York, New Jersey and Connecticut implemented a 14-Day quarantine against states with high COVID cases. As of now, those states include Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Utah. Penalties in New York State are "$2,000 for the first violation, $5,000 for the second violation, and $10,000 if you cause harm."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/new-york-coronavirus-travel-restriction/index.html

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/coronavirus/19-states-now-subject-to-connecticut-travel-quarantine-advisory/2298917/
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    What do parents and students think about full reopening when a dozen or so states including NY, NJ and CT implement mandatory quarantines and harsh penalties? We know CA, TX and FL send the most amount of out-of-state college kids to most schools. Are we worried about college-level outbreaks?
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  • austinmshauriaustinmshauri 9985 replies386 threads Senior Member
    What do parents and students think about full reopening when a dozen or so states including NY, NJ and CT implement mandatory quarantines and harsh penalties?
    There are no penalties at all if people quarantine. And the states on the quarantine list are based on Covid data. If they hit certain numbers, they're added to the list. If they drop below that threshold, they're dropped.

    We know CA, TX and FL send the most amount of out-of-state college kids to most schools. Are we worried about college-level outbreaks?
    Have you seen the case numbers in some of those states lately? Community spread is a concern.

    What state are you from and where are you heading to college this fall?
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    @austinmshauri NY has crazy penalties though. "$2,000 for the first violation, $5,000 for the second violation, and $10,000 if you cause harm." Not sure about NJ or CT.

    Mid-Atlantic region. Going to an Ivy. You?
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  • boudersbouders 2722 replies188 threads Senior Member
    Those are not crazy penalties, imo. Hawaii has a mandatory 14 day quarantine if you arrive from out of state, no matter where you flew from. If you violate quarantine, you can get a $5000 fine or a year in jail. If you're lucky, you'll just be expelled from Hawaii.

    If there's a quarantine, it's not a full reopening.

    I'm in favor of quarantines and mask-wearing.
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  • vpa2019vpa2019 685 replies18 threads Member
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    It is an enforcement issue. How do you keep track of thousands of people suddenly moving around the country? If you’re on campus it’s a bit easier but off campus there’s no way to monitor those students.

    At a minimum the schools will need to provide housing and food for the 14 days prior to classes beginning for those students living on campus...and the next question....who pays for that?
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  • CT1417CT1417 4611 replies25 threads Senior Member
    @vpa2019 --I don't know that any school has fully sorted through all of the ever-changing requirements, but I have read of a couple that plan to deliver meals to students in their room while they await their COVID test results. School will test students upon arrival, and expect to have results in 24 to 48 hours.

    CT's travel advisory reads:

    Can travelers be tested for COVID-19 instead of self-quarantine?

    Quarantine is the best option to prevent spread of disease. However, if a 14-day self-quarantine is not possible, travelers from the impacted states may enter Connecticut if they have had a negative viral test (not an antibody test) for COVID-19 in the 72 hours prior to travel.

    Now, the problem with the above loophole is that students might test negative and contract the virus during the next three days or while in transit to school.

    Then layer in the parents accompanying the students to move in. It's a mess.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 83802 replies743 threads Senior Member
    CT1417 wrote: »
    CT's travel advisory reads:

    Can travelers be tested for COVID-19 instead of self-quarantine?

    Quarantine is the best option to prevent spread of disease. However, if a 14-day self-quarantine is not possible, travelers from the impacted states may enter Connecticut if they have had a negative viral test (not an antibody test) for COVID-19 in the 72 hours prior to travel.

    Now, the problem with the above loophole is that students might test negative and contract the virus during the next three days or while in transit to school.

    Then layer in the parents accompanying the students to move in. It's a mess.

    That seems backwards. Why not offer test for COVID-19 on arrival, with release from quarantine if the test is negative?
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  • CT1417CT1417 4611 replies25 threads Senior Member
    edited July 11
    @ucbalumnus -- That is the state of CT's rule, not a college's rule. I have not yet heard how my child's school plans to handle this issue.

    The state's tracking and enforcement is lax, AFAIK. I would welcome NY's fines.
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    edited July 11
    Think all schools must follow each state's testing, quarantine and mask rules, no?

    @vpa2019 I assume either the state or the school, right?
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  • happymomof1happymomof1 30836 replies198 threads Senior Member
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    Right now, some colleges and universities are saying that they will have students on campus. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen. The whole issue of quarantining students and their dropping-them-off families might be moot.

    Do these states pull over everyone with Iowa plates at the border and send them to the closest Motel 6? Or do they let them keep on moving to a final destination out of that region if that is their intention?

    Back in the Stone Age when I went to college, parents delivered their kids to campus and left. They did not linger and hang around. That kind of kid-drop-off could mean that while the student faces 14 days of quarantine, the parent(s) would be considered to be "driving through".
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  • MaineLonghornMaineLonghorn 42278 replies2281 threads Super Moderator
    We are in Wisconsin right now. When we return home to Maine, we will quarantine until we can get tested. I already know the place we will go. It’s just part of traveling these days.
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    safety... limbo... safety... limbo... safety...
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  • sdl0625sdl0625 1033 replies13 threads Senior Member
    The issue is that my kid gets penalized and does not get to attend the first 2 weeks of class because he is from one of these states. Or we pay for 14 days of hotel for him with food delivery two weeks before school starts. Who will cover that cost? Some type of testing requirement makes more sense. Also how is NY tracking this with folks that are driving through the state. ? My kid has been basically SIP and we can do a quarantine two weeks before we leave (and will be driving). With so many kids coming to college there will have to be some other way . Will being on campus be enough? I honestly cannot control the idiots in my state.

    The pandamic has made us no longer the United States of America. We are 50 different countries each with their own rules and border security. Its really sad.
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    Apparently MA has a 14-day self-quarantine requirement which I assume all colleges there have to comply with. That's for humans from anywhere except New England, New York and New Jersey.

    https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-travel-advisory-july-1-2020/download
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  • me29034me29034 2170 replies107 threads Senior Member
    The MA quarantine “requirement” is really only an “expectation”. There is no enforcement and no penalties. That said, I assume colleges will try to abide by it.
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  • LimboKidLimboKid 251 replies3 threads Junior Member
    @me29034 ... cops won't pull us over for an out-of-state plate? They do it in NYS.
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  • me29034me29034 2170 replies107 threads Senior Member
    @LimboKid no they will not pull you over. There really is no enforcement. The governor has stated this in press conferences.
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