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Undeclared

collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
so if I'm going as undeclared, what department/school would I be admitted into for cal Poly Pomona, and colleges in general? if I have to declare a department, can I change it, if the department is not engineering, nursing, dental, or anything similar to that?
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 84678 replies752 threads Senior Member
    https://www.cpp.edu/studentsuccess/guides/change-of-major.shtml gives general information on changing/declaring major at CPP.

    https://www.cpp.edu/studentsuccess/guides/changeofmajor/requirements.shtml can show you specific majors' criteria to change into or declare.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    How about for colleges in general? is it possible to switch between the specific schools likes school of biological sciences and school of arts
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  • HPuck35HPuck35 2160 replies17 threads Senior Member
    Some colleges admit freshmen to the college and not to a specific department. For those colleges, you typically designate a department at the end of your freshman year.

    Other colleges admit by department. For many of those colleges switching departments can be problematic.

    So there is no general answer.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    Thank you! How do I figure out which colleges admit freshman to the college first?
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    edited August 7
    @collegetobe123: Which colleges are you targeting?

    Since your question is about Cal Poly Pomona, all the Cal states admit by major. For the UC’s, if the major is in the College of Letters and Sciences then most do not admit by major.

    Let me know and I can give a breakdown on how each UC campus admits Freshman.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 84678 replies752 threads Senior Member
    HPuck35 wrote: »
    Some colleges admit freshmen to the college and not to a specific department. For those colleges, you typically designate a department at the end of your freshman year.

    Other colleges admit by department. For many of those colleges switching departments can be problematic.

    So there is no general answer.

    There is also the variation in that a college may admit students undeclared to the campus, or a division of the campus (e.g. arts & sciences, engineering, etc.) to declare major later, but some majors are "full" and require high college GPA or competitive admission to declare.

    Another variation is to admit frosh into a pre-major to allow them registration priority for frosh/soph courses, but then require another admission process based on grades in the frosh/soph courses and other criteria to continue to the major. This is sometimes done for nursing.

    A college may have different procedures for different majors or divisions.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    edited August 7
    @ucbalumnus

    for UC's im thinking of applying to Irvine, Merced, and Riverside, but im mostly interested in riverside.

    The thing about UCs though, is that the classes have more than 200 students and I heard its for people who are able to work fast paced and work well individually. Im not sure Im that type of person, but its the only thing that has a low tuition rate, in CA, and accepts personal statement questions which benefits me a lot. Also on my transcript, my school doesn't give an overall UW, just the overall weighted, which is a 3.28. They also donut give a class rank. I calculated my eligibility index and I can apply, but what do you think my chances are, even though this year is unpredictable? And if you have any other suggestions for colleges, in CA or NY, id love to hear them because Im pretty confused there's a lot of factors that I need to account for so nothing seems to work out. Thanks.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    edited August 7
    @ucbalumnus

    for me its less about the major and more about the school. I am interested in sciences as well as arts and maybe business but im not sure about buisiness(web designing, careers of that sort), and there is no college on my list that has a school designated to both of them. So If I wanted to switch the schools I would want to do that
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    sorry I tagged @ucbalumnus on the wrong reply, The first one above this one is for @ucbalumnus and the one above that is for @Gumbymom
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    Any UC including UC Merced and Riverside will not be an easy admit with your GPA.

    What are your 3 UC GPA’s? https://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

    UC capped weighted also equals the CSU capped weighted.

    Eligibility index for the Cal states will not be used this year since test scores are not considered. See below:
    The CSU will consider course grades of “credit" or “pass" as fulfilling “a-g" requirements for those courses completed during winter, spring or summer 2020 terms. All other coursework must be graded and a grade of C- or better must be earned for the course to satisfy “a-g" requirements. Grades of credit/pass or no credit/no pass will not be included in the calculation of high school GPA.

    The CSU strongly recommends that ALL students enroll in a yearlong senior-year English course and a mathematics/quantitative reasoning course as student-specific Early Assessment Program (EAP) guidance will largely not be available at the time of senior year course registration. These courses could include Expository Reading and Writing (ERWC), Math Reasoning with Connections (MRWC), weighted honors, International Baccalaureate (IB), and Advanced Placement (AP) and other advanced courses.
    The California State University (CSU) will temporarily suspend the use of ACT/SAT examinations in determining admission eligibility for all CSU campuses for the 2021-2022 academic year. This temporary change of admission eligibility applies only for the fall 2021, winter 2022 and spring 2022 admission cycles. First-time freshmen must meet the following eligibility requirements: be a high school graduate or equivalent; complete the 15-unit comprehensive “a-g” pattern of college preparatory course; and earn a qualifying “a-g” grade point average (GPA) as described below.

    California residents and graduates of California high schools will be eligible for admission by earning a 2.50 or greater “a-g” GPA.
    Any California high school graduate or resident of California earning a GPA between 2.00 and 2.49 may be evaluated for admission based upon supplemental factors such as number of courses exceeding minimum “a-g” requirements, household income, extracurricular involvement, and other available information that would inform the campus admission decision. Each CSU campus will determine the supplemental factors used with GPA to determine eligibility in these cases and communicate these criteria publicly for prospective students.

    Some UC admit information:
    2019 Freshman admit rates for UC GPA of 3.00-3.39 capped weighted and not major specific:
    UCB: 1%
    UCLA: 1%
    UCSD: 1%
    UCSB: 1%
    UCI: 1%
    UCD: 2%
    UCSC: 13%
    UCR: 18%
    UCM: 53%

    2019 Freshman admit rates for UC GPA of 3.40-3.79 capped weighted and not major specific:
    UCB: 1%
    UCLA: 2%
    UCSD: 9%
    UCSB: 6%
    UCI: 7%
    UCD: 9%
    UCSC: 40%
    UCR: 53%
    UCM: 80%

    2020 UC capped weighted GPA averages along with 25th-75th percentile range:
    UCB: 4.22 (4.13-4.30)
    UCLA: 4.25 (4.18-4.31)
    UCSD: 4.18(4.04-4.28)
    UCSB: 4.17 (4.03-4.27)
    UCI: 4.11 (3.96-4.26)
    UCD: 4.11 (3.97-4.25)
    UCSC: 3.94 (3.71-4.16)
    UCR: 3.88 (3.65-4.11)
    UCM: 3.68 (3.40-3.96)

    2020 Data:
    25th - 75th percentiles for SAT totals:

    UCB: 1320-1560
    UCLA: 1350-1550
    UCSD: 1310-1520
    UCSB: 1290-1510
    UCD: 1230-1490
    UCI: 1280-1510
    UCSC: 1170-1440
    UCR: 1110-1380
    UCM: 980-1260

    25th - 75th percentiles for ACT composite + language arts
    UCB: 29-35
    UCLA: 31-35
    UCSD: 29-34
    UCSB: 28-34
    UCD: 26-33
    UCI: 27-34
    UCSC: 24-32
    UCR: 21-31
    UCM: 18-27

    There are plenty of Cal states that would love to have you and offer many majors of interest. Yes, you need to apply with a specific major or Undeclared, but many CSU’s are fairly easy to change majors. Exceptions are usually impacted majors such as Biology, Nursing, Engineering etc..

    Below is the CSU impaction matrix which shows the majors that are impacted by campus. https://www.mjc.edu/studentservices/counseling/cdtc/transfer/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf

    Also check each target campus on the requirements needed to change majors.

    Below is a link to the average admitted CSU GPA for each campus (not major specific) but it will help narrow your chances based on your GPA.

    https://www2.calstate.edu/attend/counselor-resources/Documents/freshmen-2019-admission-impaction-chart.pdf
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    Some California private schools that might be options with your GPA would be Whittier College, Cal Baptist, Cal Lutheran, University of the Pacific and Concordia University, Irvine. Run the Net price calculator to determine affordability.
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    edited August 8
    I wanted to add after reviewing your posting history, that any school where you can explain your disability will be an advantage so the you could have a better chance with the UC’s than your GPA indicates. Having a 1400 SAT score will be beneficial to your chances at the UC’s. UC admissions in general can be unpredictable, so there is no reason not to apply. Also mentioned in your SDSU post, is to contact the Disablity office at each campus target and make yourself known which could also give you a bump.

    Best of luck.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    Thank you @Gumbymom ! And what do you think my chances are for the University of San Francisco. Im from the Bay Area and I can go in as undeclared in the college of arts and sciences which has the majors im interested in?
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    I believe that USF is a good target school especially with some compelling essays and your SAT score. Also changing/declaring majors at USF would be easier than at some other universities.

    https://myusf.usfca.edu/casa/explore-your-path/declare-major

    Best of luck.
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  • collegetobe123collegetobe123 13 replies11 threads Junior Member
    edited August 8
    thank you! Your advice is so much better than my college counselor and what other people have told me!

    Also, sorry about asking so much. I was wondering what you know about the campus culture like the social life and athletics and parties
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  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC 31021 replies482 threads Forum Champion
    Unfortunately I cannot give you any insight on campus culture, social life etc... A good friend’s son did attend and was very happy with his Undergrad experience. Beyond that, I cannot offer any advice.
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