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Poor grades for top schools?

SpaceExSpaceEx 3 replies1 threads New Member
So my first year of high school (10th grade, international), I received a D in French and a couple of Bs, (to which I do have some extenuating circumstances to "blame" it on). But I was wondering how much this will effect my chances at top schools? I know people from my country (Sweden) who have been accepted to top schools, and most of them have straight A's or sevens (IB).

For reference, the GPA conversion looks like this according to some sites
B - 4.0 or 3.5
D - 2.0 or 2.5
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  • SpaceExSpaceEx 3 replies1 threads New Member
    Oh and also, how much does a good SAT score do? Like, can a 1500+ compensate for a bad GPA or how much does it weigh in the admissions process?
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  • happy1happy1 24430 replies2459 threads Super Moderator
    edited August 12
    A few comments:

    1. Those grades are unlikely to get you into an elite school, especially as an international student. You have given us no idea what your "extenuating circumstances"are, if and how that information might be relayed to admissions officers, and if the circumstances will make a difference. in how your application is viewed (it is entirely your prerogative to keep that private).

    2. Virtually every admissions officer I've heard speak has said that the most important document is the transcript which includes grades and course rigor.

    3. A high standardized test score generally does not "make up" for a sub-par transcript.
    ----For a chance of admission to elite colleges (which often have an under 10% admission rate, and it is lower for international students) every aspect of your application (ex. transcript, standardized tests, EC activities, LORs, essays) needs to excel.
    ----Some admissions officers will see a high standardized test score a lower grades as indicative of a student who is not giving his/her all in the classroom.

    4. Focus on doing your best this coming academic year and then come back to CC with your results. You can probably get better advice at that time.
    edited August 12
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  • SpaceExSpaceEx 3 replies1 threads New Member
    So after high school, I'll have 23 grades in total. Assuming 2 of them are B's and 1 is a D, do you think this same advice will apply? For reference as well, that's like top 3% in the country.
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  • Groundwork2022Groundwork2022 3734 replies90 threads Senior Member
    I wouldn't worry about the two B's. The D would be a red flag. In the process of whittling down 30,000 applications to a couple hundred acceptances (about what's left over for unhooked applicants), admissions is going to have to start looking for reasons to reject you rather than keep you. A D on the transcript is sufficient reason at that point.

    Try if you want, but have true safeties and matches for backup.
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  • SpaceExSpaceEx 3 replies1 threads New Member
    I wouldn't worry about the two B's. The D would be a red flag. In the process of whittling down 30,000 applications to a couple hundred acceptances (about what's left over for unhooked applicants), admissions is going to have to start looking for reasons to reject you rather than keep you. A D on the transcript is sufficient reason at that point.

    Try if you want, but have true safeties and matches for backup.

    What's considered a hook? Only great ECs, or test scores/essays?
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  • skieuropeskieurope 41651 replies7991 threads Super Moderator
    SpaceEx wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry about the two B's. The D would be a red flag. In the process of whittling down 30,000 applications to a couple hundred acceptances (about what's left over for unhooked applicants), admissions is going to have to start looking for reasons to reject you rather than keep you. A D on the transcript is sufficient reason at that point.

    Try if you want, but have true safeties and matches for backup.

    What's considered a hook? Only great ECs, or test scores/essays?

    Test scores are not a hook.

    The main hooks are: recruited athlete, underrepresented minority, child of alumnus/ae (legacy), child of major donor
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