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Hamas Is In Control

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  • scarletleavyscarletleavy 2359 replies15 threads Senior Member
    I don't know too much about the creation of Israel so I'll stay out of #1, but I'd take #2. It seems the US has a habit of "intervening" in countries where they don't agree with the ideology.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    It is because of Israel and US that there are Islamic extremists dominating politics in the Middle East. I hope Sharon is replaced soon.
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  • scarletleavyscarletleavy 2359 replies15 threads Senior Member
    I'm sure Sharon will be replaced soon. Isn't he still in a coma? This long and almost no way is he making a full recovery.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060128/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians
    As long as we are under occupation then resistance is our right," he said.
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  • scorpscorp 932 replies62 threads Member
    To summarize the position of "OneThousandFists" on this matter:
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    There are some people here that are barinwashed from Zionist propaganda. I recommend you guys stay off this thread so that you dont embrace anti-Islamic extremism.

    The only change I like to see is Israel being fully replaced by Palestine.

    Terrorism is a movement. You know what they want. Nobody can stop them, unless their demands are met.

    It was because of the continuous terrorist attacks in Israel, which got the Palestinians the West Bank and Gaza strip. This is just the beginning. In no way am I condoning terrorism, but this is reality. With a president like Bush in power, things are even worse.

    1.) Hand over "Israel" to Palestine.

    It is because of Israel and US that there are Islamic extremists dominating politics in the Middle East. I hope Sharon is replaced soon.
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    Nothing was edited, I just though I'd summarize for you guys, this is why there are Islamic extremists dominating politics in the Middle East. Poor OneThousandFists & Co. are merely victims, damn Israelis!
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  • TpeckTpeck - 518 replies72 threads Member
    There are also people brainwashed by Jewish propaganda since well... they own all the media. So it's kind of **** to say some people are brainwashed by Zionist propaganda and not also include Jewish propaganda.

    If you look into the history of Israel, Rothschild is sure to turn up.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/
    http://compuserb.com/mediain1.htm

    Jews control over 90% of US media. No wonder why the Israeli conflict is one-sided. There are some fickle-minded Americans (such as some in this thread) who believe Israel is such an angel! Get real, people! I highly recommend BBC over ****ty channels like FOX.
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  • Cuse0507Cuse0507 4404 replies115 threads Senior Member
    There are two ways:

    1.) Hand over "Israel" to Palestine.
    2.) No more US intervention in the Middle East.

    LMAO!!!!

    I have two ways that are exponentially more probable-

    1.) Relocate human existance to Jupiter
    2.) Merge all the continents back into Pangora or whatever the first continent was called. That way, people wouldn't know where Jerusalem was!!

    Seriously man, you are the most brainwashed person I have ever seen post there.

    Hamas is a terrorist group. Plain and simple. They want to kill EVERY last Israeli, EVERY last Jew, and until that is done, they won't stop. They will NEVER, EVER, EVER win.

    Any suicide attack by Hamas, since they are now a 'government' can now be considered an official act of war against Israel by the Palestinian territories and should be dealt with as such.

    Why are the Palestinians living in a backwards society? Because they spend their time and energy thinking of new ways to blow themselves up instead of doing something more valuable like actually trying to solve the problem reasonably. Until they can do that, there will be no chance for peace, and they will always be seen as the bad guys by the majority of the world.
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  • guguruguguru 374 replies33 threads Member
    "Islamic extremists dominating politics in the Middle East"

    how are Islamic extremists dominating politics in the middle east when the most powerful country in the middle east is Israel? People become extreme when they are under terrible conditions. For example, the Bolsheviks revolted against the Czars, but i mean, come on, regardless of the fact that they set up a brutal regime which killed and terrorized innocent civilians, they arent extremists, theyre revolutionaries. its only the muslims who are extremists
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  • Cuse0507Cuse0507 4404 replies115 threads Senior Member
    As long as we are under occupation then resistance is our right," he said.

    I actually agree with this. Although the key word here is resistance. Not terrorism. If Hamas (or any Palestinian group) wants to target the Israeli military or security forces, then all the power to them. That is war. Blowing up schoolbuses or disco clubs in Tel Aviv is a different story, however. That is not resistance, it is terrorism fueled by ignorance and extremism. That cannot stand, and as long as the Palestinians continue to do so they will continue to be condemned and will continue to go nowhere.
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  • neverbornneverborn 1831 replies46 threads Senior Member
    1000Fists: Your terrorist sympathizing ******** house of cards is about to fall. Palestine delenda est.
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  • jpps1jpps1 . 1905 replies85 threads Senior Member
    I'm going to post one of the links that 1000fists is using to justify his position...

    natvan.com/who-rules-america/

    I hope that everyone visits it, so they can see how ludicrous it is. Nothing more than explicit anti-Semitism from an article that could have just as easily been published on Stormfront.org.

    Here's a juicy excerpt:

    " a racially mixed couple will be respected, liked, and socially sought after by other characters, as will a "take charge" Black scholar or businessman, or a sensitive and talented homosexual, or a poor but honest and hardworking illegal alien from Mexico. On the other hand, a White racist—that is, any racially conscious White person who looks askance at miscegenation or at the rapidly darkening racial situation in America—is portrayed, at best, as a despicable bigot who is reviled by the other characters, or, at worst, as a dangerous psychopath who is fascinated by firearms and is a menace to all law-abiding citizens. The White racist "gun nut," in fact, has become a familiar stereotype on TV shows."
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  • guguruguguru 374 replies33 threads Member
    Cuse:

    The Palestinians have limited options and do not have the fire power to always wage conventional war on israeli soldiers. I agree that killing innocent civilians is bad, but Israeli soldiers also commit many crimes that are not as widely publicized and the Mossads torture tactics are known to be ruthless. What some see as terrorism, others see as resistance. The Palestinians are using guerilla warfare, so unconventional methods will be used.
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  • neverbornneverborn 1831 replies46 threads Senior Member
    The National Vanguard is a white supremacist site. /lol
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  • Cuse0507Cuse0507 4404 replies115 threads Senior Member
    The Palestinians have limited options and do not have the fire power to always wage conventional war on israeli soldiers. I agree that killing innocent civilians is bad, but Israeli soldiers also commit many crimes that are not as widely publicized and the Mossads torture tactics are known to be ruthless. What some see as terrorism, others see as resistance. The Palestinians are using guerilla warfare, so unconventional methods will be used.

    It is not guerilla warfare; it is terrorism. If they can blow up a school bus, they can blow up a military bus. Using an IED to take out a military vehicle is guerilla warfare; walking into a crowded restaraunt and blowing it up with the sole purpose of killing as many civilians as possible is terrorism.

    The difference between Israeli soldiers and Palestinian terrorists is that Israel tries to minimize civilian casualties, while the Palestinians try to maximize civilian casualties. Now, there have been isolated incidents of Israeli soldiers doing deplorable actions, but the soldiers are condemned and punished by Israel, while the Palestinians tend to rejoice when one of their own executes a group full of innocents.

    There is no real equating the two. If the situation were reversed and Hamas had the powerful military while Israel had no military, I find it extremely probable that every single Jew in that territory would be executed until there were no Jews left in that territory.
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  • IHateMath11IHateMath11 56 replies5 threads New Member
    The only change I like to see is Israel being fully replaced by Palestine.

    Palestine is a nation of terrorist thugs. Israel is a free democracy.

    Why are the two nations that liberals hate the most (the US and Israel) the ones that are most liberal in their policies?
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  • IHateMath11IHateMath11 56 replies5 threads New Member
    Good one. So if anyone questions Jewish power they are a Nazi Skinhead KKK member. I guess no one should question it, ?

    Considering the most vocal opponent of Israel in this thread is quoting neo-Nazi white supremacist propaganda sites--yes.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    1000Fists: Your terrorist sympathizing ******** house of cards is about to fall. Palestine delenda est.

    And what do you have to support this? Terrorism is still in existance, and you never know when there will be another London attack ;).

    Eine Israel, Eine Yahweh (sorry if there were grammatical errors :D)
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    you know some famous philosopher once was qouted saying something along the lines of " an eye for an eye will make everyone blind"

    i think that phrase is perhaps the most politically correct term i can use for the middle east relations. lets face it, for those of us that know about the creation of "israel" we all can understand why arabs and other members of the middle east would have a major issue with israel. and for anyone that can sympathize or has kids, we can see why israel's people are upset and angered over palestinian actions towards them.

    no ones right or wrong.. but simply trying to exact revenge for past doings or current problems and thats simply not the way to go about things. people harbour resentment and nothings going to change that.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    and as for a militant group being in control of palestine..... lets hope fate has mercy on everyone in the middle east, because frankly if there was a way to make the israeli-palestinian relationship anymore volatile, i think hama's found it =P
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