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Hamas Is In Control

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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    do any of you hear yourselves? i've heard what onethousand fists had to say. can't say i agree with it, but then again i don't know what in his life caused him to hate jews, so i can't really hold his views against him. it doesn't matter who's right or who's wrong, the fact is both palestine and israel's names are being slandered here. the middle east fights it battles eye for an eye, as were all doing here right now. i know it's meant to be a debate, but can anyone stop the name calling for a moment and try seeing both sides fairly?
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    Who said I hated Jews? Stop finding different meaning in what I say.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    unfortunately so, thus why so many dictatorships or personality cults in the past have tried to censor it or control it.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    i'm sorry for my mis-interpretation. how do you feel about them then? personally i think it's rather ridiculous to group a bunch of people with one characteristic though and say their all the same.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    I said I was anti-Zionist. Doesnt me I'm anti-semitic.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    i don't believe i know the difference, can you explain?
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    Anti-Zionism means that I do not support the existance of Israel. Anti-Semitic means I hate Jews, regardless of their race or religion. I am not anti-semetic.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    ah ok, that makes perfect sense. well i agree, the way israel came to be was an incredibly unjust thing. i think few can disagree with that
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  • kman1456kman1456 4029 replies13 threads Senior Member
    I believe this: until Israel removes every single settlement currently in 'Palestinian' lands, the Israelis have no right to complain about terrorists. If someone else decided to invade America (say Mexico) and decided to stay against our will, I am sure there would be Americans who would bomb those settlements in order to regain control-after all it is our land, not theirs, and they have no right to be there. I would also say that the Americans would probably support such actions if this actually occurred.
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    being in someone else's land, still gives them no right to kill innocents
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  • TpeckTpeck - 518 replies72 threads Member
    Who says they are innocent?
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    many of them are children of those who actually invaded the land. they themselves didn't, yet are still blamed for their parents or grandparents actions
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  • jpps1jpps1 . 1905 replies85 threads Senior Member
    I don't think people understand how Israel was formed.

    Once again, the Palestinians never actually had control of what is today called Israel. For the last 200 years, it has been in Ottoman or British hands. The UN voted to allow the creation of the modern State of Israel, and immigration was opened up to Jews. This was a political change, simply the handover of power from the Brits to David Ben-Gurion. Nobody was ever kicked out of their homes. Nobody ever said that only Jews can live there. On the contrary, I know many non-Jews who have lived in Israel for periods of time.

    Nothing was ever taken away from the Palestinians because they never controlled anything. It was not their land anymore than the United States is the "white man's" land .They were not evicted from their homes; instead, hard-working immigrants replaced them. Maybe had the Palestinians decided to cooperate with Ben-Gurion, they could have played a role in Israeli politics.

    Since when is immigration considered an invasion?
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  • baffledgenius89baffledgenius89 219 replies2 threads Junior Member
    true, but you still must admit that it was rather unfair that the palestinians were burdened with that. point is, none of that should still give anyone the oppurtunity or desire to kill another
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  • kman1456kman1456 4029 replies13 threads Senior Member
    The British appointed Israel and Palestine a set amount of land apieceknow there were multiple wars that tried to exterminate Israel, and Israel won and was thus able to take over large quantities of land. However, these were given up quickly. But you still kept pieces of Palestine for yourselves, and instead of handing that back, you kept it. This is not immigration-you never assimilated, just took and walled off.
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  • sljaegersljaeger 339 replies29 threads Member
    Thank You Jpps
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    jpp1, that was the most biased piece of ***** I've ever read. Hard working "immigrants" never replaced arabs, they rather fed off their land like the parasites they are. I prefer Wikipedia, since its more balanced and isnt by someone brainwashed by Jewish media.
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  • guguruguguru 374 replies33 threads Member
    "They were not evicted from their homes; instead, hard-working immigrants replaced them. Maybe had the Palestinians decided to cooperate with Ben-Gurion, they could have played a role in Israeli politics."

    Your first sentence is ridiculous. Hard working immigrants replaced them? hard working in what? just cause theyre hardworking gives them no right to kick someone out of thier house. Why should the palestinians cooperate with the Israeli's? After the British left, the land should have been given back to the Palestinians. In this way, the Palestinian people are being unjustly screwed over twice and you agree with this.

    "Nothing was ever taken away from the Palestinians because they never controlled anything."

    Yes, and the Israeli's have no right to claim the land for religious reasongs dating back to 1200 BC. Regardless of what the British and UN did, the Palestinians have no reason to acknowledge and support Israel. You are right on one point though, they never had control of the Palestinian region, and after WWII when all colonial powers were giving their countries freedom Palestine should have been created for the Palestinians. How could you even speak against people who are merely trying to take control of the land they have lived in. And don't says the Jews have always lived there, because even though their ancestors are from there, Arabs controlled the land for hundreds of years before WWII.
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  • OneThousandFistsOneThousandFists * 144 replies2 threads Junior Member
    It was after the Holocaust when the most Jews started migrating to Palestine.
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  • jpps1jpps1 . 1905 replies85 threads Senior Member
    "It was after the Holocaust when the most Jews started migrating to Palestine."

    Yes, because the British had quotas on Jews before then. Perhaps this is the best way to explain the creation of Israel--free immigration for Jews and open immigration for everyone else.

    This, from Wikipedia:

    "To date, no Arab country with the exception of Jordan has granted citizenship to Palestinian refugees living on its soil or their descendants. In Lebanon, Palestinians largely continue to live in refugee camps, often under harsh conditions, denied any benefits of citizenship and subject to restrictions on employment."

    Refugee camps? Stripped of rights? Harsh conditions? Not even the Palestinians' Arab brothers treat them well. At least Israel gave them the chance to be citizens and participate in democracy. Of course, it's hard to be taken seriously when your countrymen are shooting at schoolbuses . I guess those kids were guilty too? And yes, spare me that Palestinian kids have been killed too. The Israeli army did not plot to have them killed.

    What's going to happen in fifty years when Hispanics overtake whites as the dominant racial group in the U.S.? Are you going to say they have no right to the land?
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