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Why is Washington & Lee not very popular among Asians?

EmailechoesEmailechoes 0 replies1 threads New Member
edited December 2016 in College Life
Considering its ranking and reviews, it's kinda odd this school is rarely considered among high-performing Asians. Does it have something to do its extraordinary Greek life and undercurrent racism associated with it?
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  • vistajayvistajay 1475 replies27 threads Senior Member
    No. Next question.

    W&L is not diverse in any respect, not just Asians. The school tries, but it has not been successful. And so what? Every school does not have to be some magical blend of diversity of skin, ethnicity and thought. Wouldn't true diversity have a place for a school like W&L and whatever LAC is the exact opposite?
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  • PengsPhilsPengsPhils 4002 replies30 threadsForum Champion Northeastern, Forum Champion Math/Computer Science Forum Champion
    edited December 2016
    It looks like the link is being censored - look up "What is the stereotype of students at your school Washington and Lee" and it's the first link. Start on page 1.
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  • ZinheadZinhead 2473 replies137 threads Senior Member
    We attended an info session with a black W&L adcom, and he responded that it was hard to get minorities to attend a school like W&L when so few other minorities attend. I totally believe that.

    At our high school, many of the high performing Asian students prefer the public UC's because of the preponderance of Asians who attend.
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  • PengsPhilsPengsPhils 4002 replies30 threadsForum Champion Northeastern, Forum Champion Math/Computer Science Forum Champion
    @Zinhead

    That very much reminds me of this - diversity is actually very hard to achieve when everyone wants it, let alone when people don't:
    http://ncase.me/polygons/
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  • HappyAlumnusHappyAlumnus 1177 replies46 threads Senior Member
    W&L has a reputation for being a preppy/conservative school, which perhaps does not appeal to groups outside upper-middle to upper-income Southern circles.

    The OP seems pretty closed-minded ("Greek life = racism").
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  • doschicosdoschicos 21568 replies226 threads Senior Member
    To the OP's defense, most greek life, absent sororities and fraternities targeting people of color, hasn't been and still isn't very diverse.

    I've known a handful of kids that have attended W&L. All have been very preppy & politically conservative.
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  • PengsPhilsPengsPhils 4002 replies30 threadsForum Champion Northeastern, Forum Champion Math/Computer Science Forum Champion
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  • MarcusOSUMarcusOSU 112 replies2 threads Junior Member
    edited December 2016
    The OP seems pretty closed-minded ("Greek life = racism").

    No, OP is correct. Mainstream Greek life definitely brings with it a set of values, and racism is one of them. The Greeks are generally the ones who are close-minded.
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  • corbeauxcorbeaux 65 replies8 threads Junior Member
    I stayed at W&L for governor's school and I can say that it has a very Southern traditional feel. The Greek houses are prominently displayed, as is the church where Robert E. Lee was buried... I can see why students who don't fit into the Washington and Lee "mold" might feel uncomfortable, despite the quality of education.
    I suggest looking at the school store if you want a feel for its preppiness--it was like 50% Vineyard Vines lol
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 78999 replies701 threads Senior Member
    doschicos wrote:
    To the OP's defense, most greek life, absent sororities and fraternities targeting people of color, hasn't been and still isn't very diverse.

    Even houses that do target people of color are often non diverse (e.g. almost all black or almost all Asian). I.e. at many schools, fraternities and (especially) sororities tend to be quite segregated.

    Whether or not this is true for W&L chapters specifically is a different question.
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  • moscottmoscott 895 replies108 threads Senior Member
    Scratching my head...Am I wrong or does WUSTL not show the breakdown for students as the following:

    54% White
    31% Asian
    15% Black/Hispanic

    How is 31% not diverse especially since the point of emphasis was on Asians?

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  • moscottmoscott 895 replies108 threads Senior Member
    Stanford shows:

    42% White
    23% Asian
    14% Black/Hispanic
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  • PengsPhilsPengsPhils 4002 replies30 threadsForum Champion Northeastern, Forum Champion Math/Computer Science Forum Champion
    @moscott This is Washington and Lee, not WUSTL

    White: 83%
    Black: 2%
    Asian: 3%
    Hispanic: 4%
    Mixed: 2%
    Others: 6%
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  • doschicosdoschicos 21568 replies226 threads Senior Member
    @moscott the discussion here is about Washington & Lee not WUSTL.

    W&L's most recent common data set shows 82% White, and 3% each Black and Hispanic. Definitely NOT a diverse place.
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  • moscottmoscott 895 replies108 threads Senior Member
    Wow....total brain lock...and wow that is a huge discrepancy ^^^
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  • doschicosdoschicos 21568 replies226 threads Senior Member
    Actually, I mistyped. 2% Black, 3% each Asian and Hispanic.
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  • dragonmom3dragonmom3 407 replies14 threads Member
    Asians are 54% of the student population at UC Irvine while only 11% of the population in CA.
    Some Asians think it's "too Asian".
    There are many schools to choose from.
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  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus 78999 replies701 threads Senior Member
    https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/student-activities/greek-life/greek-organizations has links to fraternities (nationals) and sororities (W&L chapters).

    The sororities appear to be highly, though not completely, racially segregated, based on the photos on the chapter web sites. Fraternity chapter web sites are not linked (the links go to national organization web sites). At other schools, fraternities tend to be less racially segregated than sororities, but may still be very racially segregated at some schools.

    With 80%/75% of women/men joining sororities/fraternities, making them the presumed center of social life, it may mean that attending W&L risks resulting in the student's social interaction being mostly racially segregated.
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