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Is Rutgers Honors really such a compromise?

AK81493AK81493 Registered User Posts: 111 Junior Member
I've always had this thing against Rutgers and anyone that went there... I know that is pretty bad but its the truth. Ive always been stubborn, being among the top in my class, that I want to go to (and deserve) a top/prestigious university for the amount of effort i put into school.

Well now that I've realized my chances to a great school are slim Im starting to consider Rutgers. It would probably be a free ride for me. Even without that its only 12,000. (as opposed to 60,000) There seem to be a lot of smart kids there and I could invest in renting a nice house near campus and put the rest of the money away.

My problem is that most kids that dont work very hard go to Rutgers, many people look down on it, I dont know how great the education is, and the honors program is just priority with classes and housing. It is usually a safety/last resort college for people in NJ. Your opinion?
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Replies to: Is Rutgers Honors really such a compromise?

  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Registered User Posts: 82,545 Senior Member
    Rutgers is certainly a good school. However, if you want to explore some other options - especially some merit scholarship schools - you should.

    97 Average
    AP Bio-4
    AP English- 4
    AP History- 5
    Math- 680
    History- 710
    Lit- 620

    Your M+CR SAT is 1350

    Are you testing again??

    What is your situation?

    How much will your parents pay each year for college?

    Would you really get a free ride to Rutgers with a 1350 M+CR SAT? That surprises me. What scholarship would cover tuition, room, board with those scores?
  • katytibbskatytibbs Registered User Posts: 516 Member
    First, definately apply. It doesn't cost much and it doesn't take much effort, and unless you apply it won't even be an option for you. It could save you lots of money in the future.

    Second, honors is not just housing and priority - they have put a lot of effort into building the honors program- hired a dean and put a lot of effort into building a comprehensive program. I went to the accepted students day for class of 2013 and spoke to lots of honors students there who were very impressive, and who had worked very hard. Do your research and wait to make your decision until you have more information and not just prejudice.

    Third, they have revised the scholarship guidelines and they aren't guaranteed any more, here are the new guidelines. 1350 is low- Regardless of whether you want RU, if I were you I would consider taking the SAT and or ACT again, and working to get your standardized testing scores up
    Rutgers | Rutgers Admissions
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Registered User Posts: 82,545 Senior Member
    According to that link, the OP couldn't get a "free ride" at Rutgers...

    The free-ride (Presidential) has a SAT 2250 minimum requirement.

    Rutgers scholarships are competitive awards. There is no set of “numbers” that will guarantee a scholarship or scholarship amount. Most past scholarship awardees were in the top 10% of their high school graduating class, with many in the top 5%; most had A or A- high school grade-point averages, and most had combined SAT’s of at least 1950 or 30 ACT or higher. New Jersey and out-of-state students are eligible.

    Scholarship Awards
    Presidential Scholarship
    The Presidential Scholarship is the most prestigious scholarship award Rutgers offers undergraduates. Awards are $23,000 per year, and include a $11,000 credit for on-campus housing and dining. For those who choose not to live on campus, the award will be $12,000. Students are guaranteed on-campus housing for four years and admission to the Honors Program. To be considered, students must have at least 2250 combined SAT or an ACT score of 35 and an A grade point average.

    Scarlet Scholarship

    The Scarlet Scholarship is offered to outstanding first year students each year based on a combination of academic achievement and financial aid as demonstrated on the FAFSA. Students are encouraged to file the FAFSA by February 15, 2011. A minimum combined SAT of 1950 or higher or 30 ACT score is required to be considered. Awards range from $2,500 to $7,500 a year.

    Even getting a high Scarlet scholarship is iffy since the high section of the OP's SAT is in Writing, which many schools don't value much.
  • informativeinformative Registered User Posts: 1,900 Senior Member
    Rutgers Honors = oxymoron
  • NJSueNJSue Registered User Posts: 2,789 Senior Member
    I would confidently disregard anything "informative" has to say about the relative quality of academic institutions. He/she seems to be flogging Northeastern constantly, which, if you care about such things, is ranked below Rutgers by USNWR. FWIW.

    Actually, Northeastern is a very good school for certain things, and certainly does not need "informative's" help.
  • Erin's DadErin's Dad Super Moderator Posts: 34,348 Super Moderator
    What about TCNJ as an alternative?
  • schriztoschrizto Registered User Posts: 4,099 Senior Member
    Agreed, the OP shouldn't be so arrogant considering his/her SATs aren't anywhere near good enough to get a full ride from Rutgers. And as for the Rutgers honors program, it's basically similar to any other honors program at a state public.
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Registered User Posts: 82,545 Senior Member
    I think the OP has ivy league family members, goes to a prep school, and believes she belongs at a top school...even without the stats to be there.
  • nj2011momnj2011mom Registered User Posts: 2,885 Senior Member
    Rutgers is no longer a safety school to in-state students. Our HS GCs have stressed this repeatedly since early Jr year. I think some of the smaller schools in state (TCNJ, Rowan, Montclair, etc) are taking that role. With your stats, however, Rutgers does look like a safety, but not a full ride. (Have you been nominated by your school as a Garden State Scholar? That is likely a necessity in order to get any real merit aid at Rutgers.)

    Rutgers has some amazing programs - Science, Business and Performing Arts are at the top of the list. I don't think Rutgers is necessarily the best school for an undecided student, as it is large.
  • AK81493AK81493 Registered User Posts: 111 Junior Member
    wow why so many rude people? Im taking the SATs next week and my practice tests have gone up significantly.

    Writing - 750-800
    CR- 690-710
    Math- 690-730

    Im simply asking a question. no need to attack me. especially mothers? why are you mothers attacking an innocent high school student?
  • NervusBreakdownNervusBreakdown Registered User Posts: 849 Member
    you are sooo wrong

    as a fellow jerseyan, i know at my school, rutgers is recognized as a pretty damn good school.
  • DunninLADunninLA Registered User Posts: 4,271 Senior Member
    OP: Rutgers Honors (along with UCLA Honors, UCSD Honors, UCSB Honors, Michigan Honors, etc.) as a subset will have similar student stats to just about any of the USNWR schools ranked 5-15.

    I have attended both HYPSM and a Public Flagship. The difference is that at HYPSM 90% of the students were as capable as the top 20% at the Flagship. I hung out with the top 20% most of the time :)

    PS: at a Public Flagship, priority class registration is an enormously important perq.
  • sacchisacchi Registered User Posts: 2,133 Senior Member
    Rutgers is no longer a safety school to in-state students. Our HS GCs have stressed this repeatedly since early Jr year. I think some of the smaller schools in state (TCNJ, Rowan, Montclair, etc) are taking that role.

    Rowan and Monclair are safeties compared to Rutgers. But TCNJ is more selective than Rutgers.
  • flatlandflatland Registered User Posts: 64 Junior Member
    The College of New Jersey Honors Program

    minimum requirements : scored 1300 or higher on the SATs (Math and Verbal) and graduated in the top 15% of their high school classes.

    Rutgers Honors Program (CAS)

    Minimum high school rank-in-class, as reported to the Office of University Undergraduate Admissions, in the top 10 percent

    Minimum total combined critical reading, writing, and math SAT score of 2050

    Minimum individual critical reading, writing, and math SAT scores of 650
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