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Ivy League vs Northwestern

swagnation234swagnation234 Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
I have the potential to have a full ride to Northwestern plus a stipend but I have the option of going Ivy League as well with the tuition being less than 5,000 dollars. What should I do ? I understand that these are all amazing schools.
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Replies to: Ivy League vs Northwestern

  • marvin100marvin100 Registered User Posts: 9,804 Senior Member
  • happy1happy1 Forum Champion Parents, Forum Champion Admissions Posts: 24,494 Forum Champion
    Do you have a strong preference for one school over the other?
  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan Registered User Posts: 12,654 Senior Member
    How would you have offers to both NU and an Ivy already?
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Forum Champion Financial Aid, Forum Champion Alabama Posts: 84,900 Forum Champion
    Are you saying:

    Northwestern would be totally free? Tuition, room, board, books, etc, all free???

    Ivy school would be: $5k for tuition and maybe $15k for room board and books? (About $20k per year?)


    Well, I can't imagine what an ivy could do for you that NU couldn't also do. What are your parents saying? Will THEY pay the $20k per year for the ivy? Or will they/you be borrowing that $80k total?
  • austinmshauriaustinmshauri Registered User Posts: 8,625 Senior Member
    You have the "potential." Does this mean you're talking about Net Price Calculator results or do you have actual offers?
  • Penn95Penn95 Registered User Posts: 2,361 Senior Member
    edited February 2017
    @swagnation234 for that is worth, every year there is quite a handful of transfer students from Northwester transferring to Penn. I m guessing that is the case for many other ivies too, since it is for Penn.

    I think it also depends on which Ivy. Personally, if it is Harvard,Princeton, Yale, Penn or Columbia I d definitely choose the Ivy. If it is Dartmouth, Brown or Cornell it would be more of a toss up but I d probably still choose the ivy given that the cost difference is small. would u have to take out a loan for the 5k tuition?

    Lastly keep in mind that the ivies are not all the same. There are substantial differences in terms of campus vibe, atmosphere, academic philosophy etc.
  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan Registered User Posts: 12,654 Senior Member
    @Penn95, there are some of us on here who remember when Penn was the easiest Ivy to get in to (go back a little further, and Columbia had a 40% admit rate and was almost bankrupt), and honestly, the characteristics and relative positions of the various Ivies really haven't changed that much over the past few decades.
  • ClarinetDad16ClarinetDad16 Registered User Posts: 3,422 Senior Member
    How do you have a "full ride" plus stipend from Northwestern?
  • Penn95Penn95 Registered User Posts: 2,361 Senior Member
    edited February 2017
    @PurpleTitan And the point is? Penn (along with Cornell) was the easiest ivy to get into back in the 1980s. It has been 30-35+ years since then. Also at that time Stanford was an afterthought to HYP. Look where it is now, vying for top spot with Harvard. Things do change over the decades. if you had looked at say 1920s-30s things would also be different compared to the 80s. Penn improved tremendously starting at the late 80s and throughout the 1990s. And so did Columbia. Of course the characteristics and relative positions have changed.

    Just being objective here. HYP still remains the top of the ivies but Columbia and Penn have made grater progress than Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell and for the past 15-20 years they have been consistently seen as stronger universities than Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell. All the rankings (domestic, international, college, research) and metrics support that.
    Just one example, Penn and Columbia had 50-51% RD yield rates for the class of 2020 while Brown had 43%-44%, Cornell 41% and Dartmouth 38%-39%



  • PurpleTitanPurpleTitan Registered User Posts: 12,654 Senior Member
    edited February 2017
    @Penn95, by the metrics I look at (alumni achievements), there's just not that much change (and of the non-HYP Ivies, it's actually Brown in front). Even by the '80's, Stanford was already in HYPM's league (even if perception on the East Coast hadn't caught up to reality yet).
    And yield rates reflect the preferences of HS kids. I'm of the opinion that achievements are what matter.
  • swagnation234swagnation234 Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    The Ivy League schools im looking at are upenn, Columbia and Dartmouth and the total fee that I would have to pay is less that 5,000. This includes books, food, tuition and room and board
  • ClarinetDad16ClarinetDad16 Registered User Posts: 3,422 Senior Member
    Are you a junior?
  • swagnation234swagnation234 Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    Senior
  • swagnation234swagnation234 Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    also northwestern does not include the stipend, I made a mistake. My apologies.
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