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Time for another thread for B and C students

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  • hannuhyluhannuhylu 323 replies2 threadsRegistered User Member
    @momocarly I know that story well my 3.0-3.4 gpa oldest did the "but I love him" and quit school.

    That was 3 bf's ago and still no school and now 25.

    Irks my sould and breaks my heart at the same time. Always has a excuse why .......but but but.

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  • MACmiracleMACmiracle 1510 replies27 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I was very pleased when at dinner the other night my sophomore said, "I don't understand why people don't think going to community college is good. I mean, why not?"

    We are fortunate to live in a state with very good community colleges and our local one is considered the best in the state.

    Before the dinner conversation, I was already thinking cc for D20. I hope her views don't change.
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  • dcolosidcolosi 526 replies23 threadsRegistered User Member
    @Kardinalschnitt what is your home state. Kansas State participates in the Midwest Exchange program I believe so if you are in one of the states that participates it could bring the price down a bit. We looked at it living in Indiana but too far away for my D to really consider. The majority of out of state schools we looked at were ones that either participated in some type of reciprocity on tuition or ones that my D qualified for merit. Ended up staying instate but we had several options that were affordable if she wanted to go OOS.
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  • lvvcsflvvcsf 2318 replies57 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2017
    I live in Ohio and this is one area where I think our state excels for instate students. If you live in Ohio and are an average student you will have a plethora of options. From state schools near most of the major to moderate sized cities that will offer scholarships to average students (Bowling Green, Youngstown State, U of Toledo, Wright State, U of Akron, Cleveland State, Kent State, Ohio University etc.), to the branch campuses of some of these very schools as well as Ohio State and Miami University branch campuses. Most of the major cities have excellent community colleges and often 2 or three. We also have dozens of private colleges that are perfect for the average students. They will be more expensive but aid is available.

    College is expensive and is more so if you have average grades as opposed to excellent grades. Living in Ohio I think gives a more affordable options than some states. Not inexpensive or cheap just more affordable than some with a number of options.
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  • KardinalschnittKardinalschnitt 187 replies3 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited September 2017
    @dcolosi Hey there! Thanks! We live abroad so are non-resident everywhere. My parents both grew up in a small town not too far from Manhattan, so I'm famliar and suggested it right off the bat when we started looking.
    @MACmiracle I did three semesters at a CC as an adult and thought my education there was every bit as good as my three semesters at an expensive liberal arts school. I loved my International Law professor, a retired attorney who just loved to teach.
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  • HootieAHootieA 71 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    edited September 2017
    The catholic colleges are a good bet for such students. Some that come to mind in the northeast are Siena, St. Bonaventure, Fairfield, Le Moyne, St. Mike's, St. Anselm, Manhattan College. Despite all being private some rank very high on value. St. Bonaventure for example has a net cost of attendance averaging $19,000, ranked 3rd in Value by US News in the Northeast. It is a lovely campus with great tradition, a great D1 basketball team and fantastic alumni.
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  • poblob14poblob14 369 replies69 threadsRegistered User Member
    Let me echo @dcolosi regarding the tuition exchange programs. For us, because of MSEP, an out-of-state school was more affordable than our state flagship, and the scholarships available there brought the costs down even further. (They also were an excellent fit in other ways.)
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  • sbgal2011sbgal2011 273 replies21 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @goinplacesmomsD I feel you! I also live in Virginia and the grades needed to get into the universities in this state are over-the-top difficult. Not just the great colleges - UVA, William & Mary, VA Tech - but even JMU and GMU do not look at you unless you have a 3.5 or higher. It's crazy in this state.

    My DS has a 2.9 GPA and 1000 SAT. He wants Graphic Design or Digital Art, so while we will apply to VCU Arts, that is highly competitive and I doubt he gets accepted. So we are turning OOS. It's amazing how many options we have further south and even in Ohio, some reasonably priced, others a bit too high for us. Regardless, I'm confident we will have some good options when all is said and done. We have already sent several applications out and more will be completed in the coming weeks. DS takes one last shot at the SAT in October, and hopefully he will do a bit better.

    For those interested, check out Eastern Kentucky and Southern Mississippi. Both have OOS annual tuition at $10,000. My OOS neice goes there for just under $20K/year. Southern Miss is the same. I believe as long as you have a 2.5 or higher, you are an auto-admit. Something to consider....
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41727 replies450 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    What about UMW, CNU, Longwood, which would be considered pretty good in many states?
    For private universities, Ohio and Pennsylvania have a good hundred of choices for you.
    Southern Mississippi is in a nice location.
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  • sbgal2011sbgal2011 273 replies21 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    DS wants to go to a bigger college, 12,0000+ students. It doesn't have to be huge, but mid size at least. Besides, CNU is not easy to get into, most kids have a 3.5 or higher. UMW doesn't have a Graphic Design program. Longwood is just too small.
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41727 replies450 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    :( Then yes... Look into Bloomsburg, WVU, Towson, SUNYs (Plattsburg, Cortland?)
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  • goinplacesmomsDgoinplacesmomsD 112 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @sbgal2011 yeah, hahah, doesn't it suck we live in Virginia (or Fairfax County critically). Arghhhh. Prob is my daughter is being unreasonable - we're gonna have to force her hand to apply to Radford and ODU (and they are great schools too, they'll probably reject...) I don't know why on earth she thinks she has a shot at JMU with her 3.0 and under 1100 SAT (just because her sister is there - who had to transfer when they didn't accept her with her original 3.6 and 1200 GPA!) So like I say, and thanks for the extra data - we'll play every card. Including the fact that with the schools (out of state) that she applies for musical theatre - as my other daughter did, due to the competitiveness, she won't get into the musical theatre program - but the colleges out of state will (and did with my other daughter - everyone, even Virginia Tech - I'm a legacy, except dear James Madison who watlisted her.) So my angle with this kid - is happy new year, put me through the rigorous exhausting process of "also" applying for musical theatre majors/auditions at out of state schools - cuz I'm the one who secretly knows that the OOS's will accept her academically (wanting the money) and when she's sitting there at the end, with no musical theatre offers (too competitive even though her older sister made it), but she'll probably have none, and NO virginia schools accepting her - I'll know that those "big envelopes" with the happy new year you've been accepted to Joe Shmoe school out of state - and though you didn't get musical theatre -you can major in something else. Yay - she'll have some envelopes and she'll have somewhere to go. I can't believe how screwed we are in Virginia. My "bum" son I refer to, 30 years ago, when I went to Va Tech, would have walked right in with his 3.0, high SAT, captain of the football team and everything (good) else he had going on....LOL - now if you don't have practically a 4.0 - don't even talk to Va Tech or JMU. Makes me sick. And now the others following suit - unlikely for my girl to get into CNU, VCU, GMU, Mary Wash, and now I'm sickened she may not even make it into Radford or ODU (which she refuses to attend - she'll change her mind if she gets in, the little fool.) But the one thing I will not tolerate is seeing my child in pain (my fifth), at the end with ZERO acceptances - so yeah! Out of state we go. I'll try the Kentucky idea on her you mentioned, they have an MT program I believe... Thanks for sharing fellow Virginian!
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  • goinplacesmomsDgoinplacesmomsD 112 replies0 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @momocarly @hannuhylu I am soooo sorry for you, your pain, and your daughters. Those dang Bf's ruin everything. My fifth child (girl) the one I'm dealing with now a high school senior. She had 3 quarters of 3.75 last year, junior year (trying to show her upward trend to colleges "in time" for the applications,) and then the "first love" boyfriend (who was a nice guy turned idiot) of a year, dumped her right at the front of the 4th quarter. She was almost suicidal - because on top of everything else, both being in theatre - she also had to see him at show rehearsals every day. it was a nightmare of mammoth proportions. We wanted her to withdraw. She refused and said she would not be defeated. That fourth quarter (imagine how bad the academic results were,) dropped that solid 3.7 GPA she had for 3 quarters...down to a 3.15 for the year...bringing her to her wonderful pretty much same ole 3.0 cum for 3 years.) It just pisses me off that after a year (and being a nice guy) he didn't have the decency, the empathy, to just wait two freaking months - her whole future is affected because of the competitiveness of colleges in our state. I hate bf's now - I am going to stay ahead of that stuff in the future so this disaster doesn't happen (dropping out of college) which many many girls do after the bf deal (two of my best friends daughters did,) it's is a killer. I am going to coach her on this madness - she's beautiful - don't get wrapped up with your definition being some guy. Arggh (and I have five daughters...., three olders are good to go, but I have a sense - this one's gonna be living in our basement and not in college at some point due to some fool boyfriend.) Her older sisters and brothers are all worried about this too. It's written all over her. She's just too aimless and not realizing her own greatness. Bummer bummer. I'll pray for you and your daughter as I pray for my own kids!!!! best to you
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  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 41727 replies450 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited September 2017
    Academically easy and good for MT : Montclair State in New Jersey. A 3.0-3.2 +1000 SAT totally gets in (not necessarily for MT though, obviously).
    Muhlenberg has good MT, no need to be a major to participate (but competitive so talent and passion required), and she can apply RD with her senior year first semester results. SAT would need to be better, or she can apply test optional but I don't think scholarships are as good for test optional applicants.
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  • hannuhyluhannuhylu 323 replies2 threadsRegistered User Member
    @goinplacesmomsD while I agree BFs can suck. I 100% blame my daughter.

    She has had more input, coaching, advice, than most she just continues to choose a "We will figure something out!", " I dont know what I want to be?" , " How will I see xxxxx if I go back to school though?".

    It obvious she has no desire. She wont be young forever and regret is pain that rarely goes away imo.


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  • mstompermstomper 1022 replies40 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @labegg, our 3.1, 1320 SAT S is going to visit Ithaca and Syracuse this week. I'm conflicted on whether I'd want to seem him pick either; his issues with anxiety and procrastination make me think he'd do better at a smaller LAC (and he is applying to McDaniel).
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  • chippedtoofchippedtoof 260 replies3 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @abegg wrote:
    these are the kids that are most likely to succeed, simply because they have learned to roll with the punches and keep going.
    All but the handful of uber-students at each college will get a gut check during their undergraduate experience. The ones that know that they can survive (through personal experience) really do have an advantage.

    I agree @momocarly I get a bit worked up too when people dismiss schools without thought. In my book, if there are good professors/teachers in the classes/depts you're going to take, so many colleges can meet your needs. I'm very glad to have gone through this period of discovery thanks to my S. I feel so much more free :)
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