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Where do the casual, non-hipster, jock/outdoorsy kids go to college?

LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 8,735 Senior Member
I though he would be easy, but it's proving a little more difficult than I anticipated to come up with a manageable list.

He would like:
Wide range of majors. He is undecided. Perhaps Econ, criminology, business, history. Quite into the idea of being in intelligence at some point. Not STEM oriented.
Easy access to outdoor actvities, especially in winter.
Non-hipster environment, but reasonably liberal. He is fine with anything in moderation though.
Not too small. Most LACs are out*.
Not too big. His ideal size is probably 5-15k.
He does not want an intellectual environment: "Those people are super annoying."
Would like to play club lacrosse in college.
Would like decent school spirit and ideally a football team, but ice hokey and lax are cool too.
In the ideal world, a college that might allow subbing foreign Lang requirements for something else. (That would be awesome.)

We would like:
Good profs.
More small classes than large. Small classes are the ideal. He is dyslexic and dysgraphic, so colleges with services/accomodations for such kids are a bonus.
A good reputation.
Good career services, good alumni network.

Good reptuation in wide range of majors.
Smaller classes (may be a sticking point because he likes larger schools than typical LACs.)
Good outdoor access.

His stats:
Rising junior.
Solid B+/A- student. I expect this to hopefully flip to A-/B+ next two years.
He has taken 1 AP so far. (Our school generally allows only jr/seniors to take AP.)
3 honors Frosh, 3 honors soph.
2 IB next year, 3 honors.
Anticipated senior year schedule has two APs and two-three honors.
Only two years of high school level FL, and that will never, ever change. It was his biggest nightmare.
Anticipated ACT score of 30-32. (Based on pre ACT score of 28. I am a test prep tutor, so we expect he will improve.)
Plays lacrosse, will be varsity next year.
Other actvities: Model UN, volunteering, work.

Finances: We have money saved and finances are ok.

So far, he is interested in or is considering:
U Vermont
UC Boulder
U New Hampshire
SUNY New Paltz
UC Santa Barbara
U of San Diego
Ithaca College
Oddball: West Point, because he likes the idea of discipline and fitness, plus the potential to get into intelligence. He has been there a number of times for sports events and loves the atmosphere.

I would like him to also consider:
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY Binghamton
SUNY Plattsburgh
SUNY Oswego
SUNY Oneonta
Evergreen State

*I wish he would consider:
Bates (Academics too tough? Sis attends.)
Dickinson (Has visited and liked, when sis was accepted.)
Whitman (Academics too tough maybe?)

He does not have a dream school. He doesn't have strong feelings about any particular college. He is totally not interested in prestige. He may not end up with a reach school. Suggestions appreciated!


Replies to: Where do the casual, non-hipster, jock/outdoorsy kids go to college?

  • OttermaOtterma Registered User Posts: 1,447 Senior Member
    What about some of the smaller Washington State public universities? UW is great too but might not be appropriate in terms of size and academic toughness.
  • GumbymomGumbymom Forum Champion UC Posts: 25,651 Forum Champion
    UCSB may also be on the larger side with approximately 24,000 students which does include graduate students.

    Although you stated finances are good, are you prepared to pay $60K/year with no financial aid for UCSB?

    FL can be an issue since UC's recommend 3 years and the majority of the applicants will have 3 years.

    What UCSB looks for in an applicant:
    * Santa Barbara
    * Very important: Academic GPA, Application essay, Rigor of secondary school record, Standardized test scores
    * Considered: Character/personal qualities, Class rank, Extracurricular activities, First generation college student, Level of applicant's interest, State residency, Talent/ability, Volunteer work, Work experience
    * Note: Eligibility established by high school GPA, course requirement, and SAT scores. Special consideration for disadvantaged students.
  • wisteria100wisteria100 Registered User Posts: 4,052 Senior Member
    Hobart is a little smaller than his parameters, but it may fit on a lot of the other criteria. If he doesn't mind a Catholic school, Siena could fit the bill too.
  • Studious99Studious99 Registered User Posts: 911 Member
    Highly highly recommend Evergreen State! My teacher raved about how fantastic it is.
  • Studious99Studious99 Registered User Posts: 911 Member
    Also, University of Puget Sound and Gonzaga could be added to the list of possibilities.
  • CorbettCorbett Registered User Posts: 3,438 Senior Member
    edited July 2017
    If he likes Army, then maybe consider other schools in the Patriot League. In general, PL schools aren't noted for being overly urban, intellectual, or hip, and an ACT of 30-32 would generally be in range. They have Division 1 sports, but typically play football at the FCS level like the Ivies (Army and Navy are exceptions; they play football outside the PL at the FBS level).

    Bucknell ? Larger than a typical LAC at ~ 3600 students, and broader options since it has schools of management and engineering. Rural location, outdoorsy. Has a one-course foreign language requirement though.

    Lehigh ? Small university at ~ 7200 students. Strong for business and engineering, as well as liberal arts. Located on mountain, city of Bethlehem on one side, rural on the other side. No foreign language requirement.
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 8,735 Senior Member
    edited July 2017
    Thanks for the suggestions so far. He is not preppy. He's more like a "surfer dude" who would probably surf if he lived in Cali. He is into snowboarding. Yes, @Gumbymom , UCSB might not be viable.

    @Midwestmomofboys , he hasn't totally said no to LACs. And thanks for evergreen State info. He won't be into druggy.
  • twogirlstwogirls Registered User Posts: 6,747 Senior Member
    U of Delaware.... ?
  • ShrimpBurritoShrimpBurrito Registered User Posts: 1,429 Senior Member
    I agree with the midwestern Catholic school suggestion, and I'll add on St. Louis University.
  • Conformist1688Conformist1688 Registered User Posts: 1,055 Senior Member
    Would he not need languages for a career in intelligence?
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 8,735 Senior Member
    edited July 2017
    He might, @Conformist1688 . He needs to figure that out.

    @Midwestmomofboys and other recommending the Midwest, I am a fan of several Midwestern colleges. Forgive my ignorance, but is there any skiing in the Midwest? I think the possibility of winter sports matters to him.
  • twogirlstwogirls Registered User Posts: 6,747 Senior Member
    U of Maine? I think the size is right...?
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