Welcome to College Confidential!

The leading college-bound community on the web

Sign Up For Free

Join for FREE, and start talking with other members, weighing in on community discussions, and more.

Also, by registering and logging in you'll see fewer ads and pesky welcome messages (like this one!)

As a CC member, you can:

  • Reply to threads, and start your own.
  • Post reviews of your campus visits.
  • Find hundreds of pages of informative articles.
  • Search from over 3 million scholarships.

Kiplinger's Best College Values, 2018

OHMomof2OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 12,619 Senior Member
Whee, another ranking.

Article: https://www.kiplinger.com/article/college/T014-C000-S002-kiplinger-s-best-college-values-2018.html

Actual list: https://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php?table=all

Methodology: https://www.kiplinger.com/article/college/T014-C000-S002-how-we-rank-the-best-college-values-2018.html
1 Princeton University NJ
2 Davidson College NC
3 Swarthmore College
4 Harvard University MA
5 Duke University NC
6 Pomona College CA
7 Vanderbilt University TN
8 Rice University TX
9 Washington and Lee University VA
10 Wellesley College MA
11 Williams College MA
12 Dartmouth College NH
13 Yale University CT
14 Thomas Aquinas College CA
15 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill NC
16 Vassar College NY
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA
18 California Institute of Technology CA
19 Amherst College MA
20 Stanford University CA

«1

Replies to: Kiplinger's Best College Values, 2018

  • bookwormbookworm Registered User Posts: 8,809 Senior Member
    Makes me wonder. MY son's UG was #1 when making our decision. Also, I think Stanford has a clear financial,aid guide, yet it ranks lower than their formula would seem to be.
  • saillakeeriesaillakeerie Registered User Posts: 2,150 Senior Member
    How to evaluate a school that gets low score for aid when you are awarded a lot of aid. Or a school that gets a high score for aid when you are awarded none. And how about if education quality is great but your particular major isn't so great. Or if education quality is not so great but your particular major is. Guess we need another list for those.
  • HCPP20HCPP20 Registered User Posts: 79 Junior Member
    Holy Cross #13 LAC and #25 Nationally. I like this list!
  • TekSanTekSan Registered User Posts: 110 Junior Member
    Always struck by how this list was different, which is appreciated. I like value lists, but not a fan of 4-year graduation rates seen so analytically. Wish we could dive deeper and see why a school is graduating or not graduating in 4 years. For example, does it take longer than 4 years because it's hard to register for necessary classes or is it because the school promotes study abroad and internships? The difference is significant to outcomes. Interesting to see Pitzer ahead of Claremont.
  • ordinarylivesordinarylives Registered User Posts: 3,195 Senior Member
    And SURPRISE! It's pretty much the same as every other ranking...
  • TiggerDadTiggerDad Registered User Posts: 1,879 Senior Member
    Can't complain when a listed private school is costing me $10K less a year than the in-state public school. :)
  • TooOld4SchoolTooOld4School Registered User Posts: 3,296 Senior Member
    edited February 2018
    This list sounds pretty typical. What it has to do with 'value' I am not sure.

    STEM schools are disfavored because engineers often take 4.5-5 years to graduate
    Private schools are favored because of better FA, and because their full pay students graduate debt free and tend to come from wealthier families. More applications due to better FA also affects admission rates.
    Public schools are disfavored because they use OOS tuition instead of in-state tuition in their computations, removing their primary advantage for middle class families in the rankings.

    Basically useless.
  • northwestynorthwesty Registered User Posts: 3,417 Senior Member
    This is a highly recommended and helpful tool for shopping for aid. Both need aid and also merit aid.

    Forget about the rankings, since every ranking formula is going to have a particular set of biases and assumptions baked in.

    But Kiplinger has a searchable database of about 300 colleges that is very useful. If you are shopping for merit aid, you can search the 300 schools just for merit aid info. Or search/shop just for need aid.

    You could dig that data out of each school's individual CDS, but the database makes it very easy.
  • OHMomof2OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 12,619 Senior Member
    @TooOld4School school STEM schools are disfavored because engineers often take 4.5-5 years to graduate

    Aren't they also favored for high early-career salaries though?
    Public schools are disfavored because they use OOS tuition instead of in-state tuition in their computations.

    Fair criticism, but hard to decide which way to do it. Some formula based on % of students paying instate vs out of state might work. But that's the same problem with privates where some pay little and some pay a lot based on need-based or merit aid.

    I find the "not usual suspects" on the list interesting. Aquinas, for instance. Low sticker price?
  • TooOld4SchoolTooOld4School Registered User Posts: 3,296 Senior Member
    @OHMomof2 , they are looking at 10 year out salaries. That includes everyone with graduate & professional degrees, so I think the difference is minimal.
  • OHMomof2OHMomof2 Registered User Posts: 12,619 Senior Member
    ^ then I find that a refreshing change. Because the early salary advantage engineers have skews most rankings the other way, IMO. @TooOld4School
  • katliamomkatliamom Registered User Posts: 12,868 Senior Member
    Having Princeton as #1 is like saying that a top-of-the-line Mercedes is a best value. Well DUH... but only if you WIN it....
  • TooOld4SchoolTooOld4School Registered User Posts: 3,296 Senior Member
    @OHMomof2 , unfortunately this looks more like a 'Which private colleges send their graduates to Wall Street or Silicon Valley' list.
  • thumper1thumper1 Registered User Posts: 76,029 Senior Member
    These $60,000 a year PLUS colleges are good values for those with financial need who get sufficient need based aid...AND whose parents can afford to pay their family contribution.

    For MANY these are not “best values” because either the family contribution is unaffordable...or the family doesn’t qualify for need based aid...and can’t afford the family contribution.

    I think the title “Best Value” is a bit disingenuous because to most it makes it sound like these are affordable colleges...and really $60,000 plus a year colleges are not affordable for everyone.
  • tk21769tk21769 Registered User Posts: 10,605 Senior Member
    I don't know that the overall rankings make much sense from a "value" perspective, since value depends so much on your financial circumstances. However, one nice feature of the Kiplinger rankings is that you can click-sort on the the columns that most interest you. You can consider LACs, private universities, and public universities separately ... or you can compare them in one unified list. For example you can easily isolate just the LACs with the biggest average merit awards or the highest percentage of students who get them.
This discussion has been closed.