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Haverford vs NYU?

hope2018transferhope2018transfer Registered User Posts: 25 Junior Member
Hi! I am a transfer student deciding between attending NYU or Haverford College for Fall 2018 and beyond. I am still waiting on one decision from another university, which I will attend if accepted, but I am kind of expecting to be rejected. Nonetheless, Haverford and NYU are both really great options to have, and I am so excited for the rest of my college experience either way!

I have looked into the academics of both universities, and I am good with all of that. My questions are really about campus life and student culture at either or both of these schools. I'm mostly wondering about being a transfer student and coming into one of these schools not knowing anybody and making friends as a sophomore rather than a freshman. I'm not a super quiet/shy person, but I'm also not really the type to go up to somebody random and start talking all of a sudden either. In theory, the warm/accepting Haverford community that I have read a lot about sounds wonderful and is something that I would love. However, I'm worried that because it's such a small community, everybody will already know most people and have made the decisions about who their friends are and not really look to expand their friend groups. Also, I'm kind of worried because there are very few Haverford transfers. I realize that this will be a struggle at both places, but NYU is significantly larger than Haverford, so I feel like it would be easier to meet more people, and NYU has more transfer students.

Basically, does anybody have any experience transferring to Haverford or to NYU Gallatin? Or know anybody who transferred? I'm really just trying to get more insight as to what I will be walking into next year in terms of culture and student life (and I know that it's going to be varied because everybody is different there are many clubs/groups etc. but like if the vibe of the campus is very closed off and individualistic, as is the case with NYU for the most part, according to what I've heard, then that kind of makes a difference).

Thank you so much, I would really appreciate hearing any experiences about either place if you guys have them. Thanks again!!
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Replies to: Haverford vs NYU?

  • wmcarterwmcarter Registered User Posts: 5 New Member
    This is apples and oranges. New York City vs suburban Philly? I would pick NYU hands down.
  • CaMom13CaMom13 Registered User Posts: 393 Member
    If you're reserved by nature and looking for an accepting environment, choose Haverford. NYU is wonderful but it's not for everyone - I think the people who would thrive the big city campus wouldn't even consider a school like Haverford. I went to a very small school and I remember the transfer students were a little lost at first but within a year they found a group of friends. At a large school you make many of your college friends freshman year - at a small school you add on friends every year until you know your whole darned class by senior year and you can't wait to get out of there. lol.
  • happymomof1happymomof1 Registered User Posts: 27,999 Senior Member
    Haverford is functionally half of the BMC-HC community, with reasonable cross registration at Swarthmore and Penn. This means that there always are a few new faces turining up in classes. Granted, it is nowhere near the transfer experience of a big state U where there are a gazillion new students every semester.

    Wherever you end up as a transfe, you will have to be proactive in getting settled in. Attend all of the transfer/new student orientations that you are offered.
  • hope2018transferhope2018transfer Registered User Posts: 25 Junior Member
    @doschicos Thank you so much! This really made me feel better. I was leaning toward Haverford for a few other reasons, but I was really nervous about people not being open to meeting me. Thank you for saying this!!! A lot of good points
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 18,676 Senior Member
    If you have any questions on Haverford, feel free to ask.
  • prezbuckyprezbucky Registered User Posts: 4,255 Senior Member
    edited May 6
    Haverford has more of a reserved/introspective student body. It offers much smaller classes, more direct interaction with professors, and much prettier surroundings.

    If you much prefer manhattan, you could choose NYU; but if the quality of your undergraduate academic experience is important to you, and you aren't a huge fan of big attitudes and constant noise, choose Haverford.

    Another attribute of Haverford is that you can also take classes at UPenn, Bryn Mawr and Swarthmore.

    I too would pick Haverford, if I were 18 again. If only! haha
  • Jon234Jon234 Registered User Posts: 149 Junior Member
    Woah! Tell me more about NYU housing, please.
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 8,059 Senior Member
    edited May 6
    @Jon234 , as far as I am aware, there are different levels of housing. More expensive housing is better. Built in class system.
  • CaMom13CaMom13 Registered User Posts: 393 Member
    edited May 6
    @jon234 and @lindagaf - my daughter is starting at NYU next year and there are different levels of expense for housing, but that's true at most large universities. You pay more for fancier dorms at Purdue, for instance. You pay more everywhere for a single than a double or quad. I don't see any difference between that at the options we're given at NYU for housing. Smaller schools won't have that kind of variety in housing and also won't have a difference in rates but I don't think it's at all unique that you can spend more or less on a dorm depending on which dorm you choose.

    Just as a reality check I googled the first large public university I could think of that provides dorms for 4 years.... U Mich has seven rate levels for housing..

    http://www.housing.umich.edu/undergrad-rates
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 18,676 Senior Member
    At Haverford, you don't pay more for a single than a double actually. There are large number of singles. Housing is one price regardless of what you get.
  • CaMom13CaMom13 Registered User Posts: 393 Member
    Hey @doschicos - sorry to be too general - I did say smaller schools were different but I didn't parse all of the options. :) My point, which is a little off-topic, is that singling out NYU for having different rates for housing is odd. There are plenty of reasons to dislike NYU but that's seems an odd one as it's not unique to NYU at all.
  • Jon234Jon234 Registered User Posts: 149 Junior Member
    Something else I was unaware of. Never crossed my mind. I thought housing was housing.

    I don't think anyone is singling NYU out, rather it came up in a straight comparison between NYU and Haverford.

    Lived in NY and never felt NYU had a clearly defined campus. Haverford has a clearly defined, beautiful campus. They were demolishing a library when we visited about a month ago. Seemed a shame they couldn't keep what was a beautiful building.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 18,676 Senior Member
    edited May 6
    I get it but the two options here in this particular discussion are just NYU and Haverford not other schools. So, given the choices for the OP, there is a valid difference in housing options/styles and how it impacts community, @CaMom13. Haverford's approach to housing is no doubt intentional and it speaks to the Quaker value based culture and community based environment on campus as do other school policies like no Dean's List, no honors program and the special privileges that allows for a subset of students, one dining hall, thesis required for all students not just some, etc.

    Haverford is a beautiful campus, IMO, and has an arboretum so it is a calm and relaxing place to live for 4 years. Easy to get to all kinds of restaurants and shopping on foot or by bike. Also an easy walk to the commuter train station and you can be in Philly in about 20 minutes or so. Philly is very vibrant with some wonderful dining and a great music and arts scene.

    Regarding the library, @Jon234, they are retaining many parts of the beautiful old library and incorporating that into the new, much larger library. Should be very nice. You can visit here for more info on the plans:
    https://www.haverford.edu/library-building-project
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