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8 More Colleges Submitted Incorrect Data for Rankings

Dave_BerryDave_Berry CC Admissions Expert Posts: 2,648 Senior Member
"t's just a few weeks from the next edition of the U.S. News & World Report "Best Colleges" rankings, widely questioned by educators but relied on by many students and parents (and boasted about by some of the same educators who say that the rankings are a lousy way to pick a college).

But it turns out that eight of the colleges ranked a year ago submitted information that was sufficiently incorrect that it would have changed their places in the rankings. And so U.S. News has declared them to be "unranked," a punishment that lasts until Sept. 10, when the new edition comes out." ...

Interesting errors.

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2018/08/24/eight-more-colleges-identified-submitting-incorrect-data-us-news
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Replies to: 8 More Colleges Submitted Incorrect Data for Rankings

  • SatchelSFSatchelSF Registered User Posts: 1,055 Senior Member
    Never heard of most of those schools. There are way too many colleges in the United States and way too many students attending.
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Registered User Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Those schools should be at risk of losing federal aid because they violated the Student Right To Know Act of 1990 and failed to follow the guidelines provided by the US Department of Education for calculating the graduation rates.
  • JenJenJenJenJenJenJenJen Registered User Posts: 1,046 Senior Member
    Why should they be at risk of losing federal funds? - Maybe they gave the government the right information and sent USNWR the wrong information.
  • JenJenJenJenJenJenJenJen Registered User Posts: 1,046 Senior Member
    @austinmshauri You're questioning the ethics taught in business schools? LOL. Look at the banking system in the US.
  • ljberkowljberkow Registered User Posts: 390 Member
    You can find outliers on anything. It is a very small minority of people here who aren't on the level. Comparing this to the problems with banks is a little too much hyperbole.
  • Groundwork2022Groundwork2022 Registered User Posts: 396 Member
    The violations mentioned in the article aren't a game changer for me. Yes, it is hypocritical to submit false information while expecting academic honesty from the students, and those schools deserve "a year on the bench". However, DD is not picking a school based on the professors salaries, the spending per student, or even the graduation rate. To me it is further evidence that, if these are the ways schools are gaming their USNWR rankings, those rankings don't mean much, at least to us.
  • Minnie2021Minnie2021 Registered User Posts: 16 Junior Member
    What are the difference in methodology between US News and Forbes? The NESCAC rankings are so different.
  • bester1bester1 Registered User Posts: 1,220 Senior Member
    edited August 29
    These Are the 727 Best Colleges in America...
    http://time.com/money/best-colleges/

    Personally....I am fond of these ratings as they are based on ROI as opposed to so called prestige(we all know many colleges "game the system") and allows potential students a perspective of what could be affordable and still provide a realistic opportunity and a decent education.

    Having said that....I realize there isn't any perfect way to measure.

    Money Magazine’s new college rankings finally get it right for students.......
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/07/13/money-magazines-new-college-rankings-finally-get-it-right-for-students/?utm_term=.fc32f4db981e

    "Unlike U.S. News, which focuses on several measures that really shouldn’t matter to students — percentage of alumni who donate, for example — Money magazine tries to answer the questions that prospective students should be asking on their college tours this summer: What is the graduation rate, net price (what’s the real tuition they’ll pay), how much do they and their parents have to borrow in loans, and will they learn any marketable skills that will help them get a job in order to pay back those loans?"
  • TomSrOfBostonTomSrOfBoston Registered User Posts: 13,927 Senior Member
    @Minnie2021 One difference is that USNews uses the 6 year graduation rate while Forbes uses the 4 year graduation rate.

    @bester1 The alumni donation rate is a measure of student satisfaction with their college years after graduation and is relevant.
  • BrianBoilerBrianBoiler Registered User Posts: 436 Member
    The punishment is only 3 weeks long. They are removed from the rankings until the new ones come out on Sept. 10.

    I don't think answering a question wrong is an integrity issue by itself. None of the errors were done to mislead the consumers of the information. I believe if it was an integrity issue, the punishment would have been more severe.
  • lookingforwardlookingforward Registered User Posts: 28,301 Senior Member
    Come on. Who really thinks USNews is gospel? Or any of them? The complicated formulas don't make rankings any more than a goof to look at. We like when our schools do well.

    I've only heard of two of those eight. Are we sincerely worried Big Bad Boss USNews has brought down the hammer?
  • JenJenJenJenJenJenJenJen Registered User Posts: 1,046 Senior Member
    Are we sincerely worried Big Bad Boss USNews has brought down the hammer?

    It's just the opposite, @lookingforward. The suspension is 3 weeks long. "Bringing down the hammer" would have been suspension for a year. This isn't even a spanking; it's more like a side-eye.
  • ekdad212ekdad212 Registered User Posts: 152 Junior Member
    I recall USNews pulled GWU from its list a few years ago for misreporting data. That's a pretty prominent school.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/2012/11/14/53954596-2e8d-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html?utm_term=.8404c6714c11
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