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Dickinson vs. St. Lawrence

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Replies to: Dickinson vs. St. Lawrence

  • PublisherPublisher Registered User Posts: 7,322 Senior Member
    In her last post, she listed her 3 dream schools as Bates College, Conn College, & Franklin & Marshall.
  • maddie9691maddie9691 Registered User Posts: 59 Junior Member
    Thanks everyone for the reply!
    @Midwestmomofboys I'm glad you mentioned the French study abroad opportunities, I'll definitely look in to those! also, I didn't even think to check if awards would carry over to study abroad, so thank you! I didn't realise Dickinson had so much Greek life though, so that's something I'll have to consider.

    @Publisher I love Canada and cold weather, so that's a plus. I'm not an athlete. I was actually warned by a teacher that I wouldn't like St. Lawrence because it was so preppy, but I've read it's been getting better.

    @taverngirl Partying was a concern for me too, I'm not exactly a party girl, although it wouldn't bother me as long as there were alternatives.

    Yes, I got a $15,000 a year scholarship from Dickinson and $30,000 a year scholarship from SLU. However, Dickinson gave me a larger grant, so it evened out. I haven't visited SLU, but I have visited Dickinson. I'm going to schedule my admitted students day this weekend.
  • PublisherPublisher Registered User Posts: 7,322 Senior Member
    edited February 7
    Awards at both schools should cover study abroad if on that school's program. The issue is whether scholarship awards & financial aid grants apply to study abroad programs run by other schools.

    @maddie9691: Are you still considering other schools ?
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 9,837 Senior Member
    edited February 7
    Re #14, based on the original post, I think the trip to Dickinson would take seven hours by car, and that the ride to SLU would be the shorter one, at five hours.
  • GrayStrongGrayStrong Registered User Posts: 53 Junior Member
    @maddie9691 are you still waiting for the Bates ED decision?
  • PublisherPublisher Registered User Posts: 7,322 Senior Member
    edited February 9
    The Bates EDII decisions are out today. If OP remained EDII at Bates, then she is confidant of receiving a significant financial aid award because she already has great financial packages from these two schools which include substantial merit scholarships.

    @maddie9691 : Several LACs have the month of January as a separate term in which students enroll in a single class which meets 5 days a week. Often students use this opportunity to enroll in a school sponsored month long study elsewhere option (study abroad or in a different area of the US).

    Just checked: While Middlebury College has a January Term, neither St. Lawrence nor Dickinson do.
  • PublisherPublisher Registered User Posts: 7,322 Senior Member
    While researching J-term LACs, I came across a ranking of LACs based on study abroad programs & options.

    Dickinson College was/is ranked at #45.

    St. Lawrence came in at #19.

    Bates was/is #16.

  • maddie9691maddie9691 Registered User Posts: 59 Junior Member
    @GrayStrong @Publisher I was deferred by Bates, and haven't heard back from any others besides UVM (which is too expensive to consider).

    Thanks everyone for the continued responses! I certainly have a lot more to think about now. I'll have to look in to the study abroad programs ran by other schools.
  • EmpireappleEmpireapple Registered User Posts: 1,408 Senior Member
    My son turned down SLU last year with a nice scholarship offer. Publisher suggested that years ago it was for upper middle class and prep school kids. Based on our research, it still is. It also seems like a school for high school athletes who wanted to continue their sport. During our visit they stressed study abroad and our tour guide said most students take advantage of that.

    One thing that bothered me was how much nicer the athletic side of the campus was than the library. To me, a red flag. The dorms were also in very poor condition. They showed one new gorgeous dorm for upper class students who have earned enough quality points to get in. Freshman/other dorms seemed bad. I don't expect luxury housing but for what you pay there, I expect better.

    The attraction for my son was the beautiful campus and north country. He was drawn to the Adirondacks and was not turned off by the cold winter. However, after careful consideration, the population was not for him. For him, I think he dodged a bullet but I think it could be the perfect school for others.

    Good luck with your decision.
  • MidwestmomofboysMidwestmomofboys Registered User Posts: 3,937 Senior Member
    On paper -- the NY Times article on economic diversity and Common Data Sets -- St L is more economically diverse than Dickinson, though less racially/ethnically diverse. How an individual student experiences those differences will vary. My kid found the older dorms charming and not particularly different than many campuses, though the new Kirk Douglas dorm, with suites and washer/dryers on each floor/alcove and a delightful cafe, was drop dead gorgeous. A student at SLU needs to be comfortable with long, cold winters with not much happening outside campus. For a cross country skier, SLU would be heaven on earth.

    We loved both schools.
  • easybreezy23easybreezy23 Registered User Posts: 4 New Member
    @Empireapple while I can agree that SLU's population is not for everyone, I think that the campus aesthetic and architecture is Gorgeous. That disparity between the athletic complex and the rest of campus is due in part of SLU's recent renovations, which is also now including a major upgrade of the Hockey Arena. Also, SLU is currently conducting a fundraising campaign which includes an extensive upgrade of academic and residential buildings. It currently has $148 million raised of $225 million goal, which I think is more than enough to upgrade those dorms: https://campaign.stlawu.edu/


    This campaign also includes numerous scholarship funds for study abroad, which goes back to OP's ultimate decision. While I'm not in the position to comment on Dickinson as I know very little, I would say that St. Lawrence will give you a very great experience abroad at a very low cost if financial aid for studying abroad is VERY important to you.
  • intparentintparent Registered User Posts: 36,740 Senior Member
    Dickinson’s FA and merit scholarship does carry over in our experience, but check on the details with each school.
  • Trixy34Trixy34 Registered User Posts: 1,156 Senior Member
    edited February 14
    Regarding study abroad rankings - what am I missing? When I was in college 25+ years ago, you basically could go anywhere you wanted anyway. Sure, programs through your school might be preferred, but it's not like it's difficult to get credit for just about any program you're interested in.
  • intparentintparent Registered User Posts: 36,740 Senior Member
    Oh, there is a difference. Some schools won’t let you go aboard except through their programs. D1 took a couple schools off her list that wouldn’t support her desire to study in a country where those schools didn’t have programs. It is easiest and the least amount of hassle to go abroad on a school’s own programs, too. So check out their programs as part of your decision process.
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