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Best way to find school for undecided student

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  • washugradwashugrad 1120 replies13 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    My knowledge of Santa Clara U. is fairly limited... I've been on part of the campus for a concert and know one student there. The campus is cute but in an unattractive part of San Jose (light industrial, right by the airport). That was coming from one direction, though, might be better on the other side, and obviously there's a ton to do in the area. The kid I know there really likes it and isn't religious at all. I get the sense that it draws a lot of the preppy Catholic high school Bay area kids, but that could be changing as the school is rising in the rankings (I don't mean anything is wrong with preppy Catholic kids... more that too many kids from the same few high schools might be a turnoff for kids from other places). The school is very well placed for silicon valley internships.
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  • Darcy123Darcy123 263 replies6 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    2 kids we know went to Santa Clara last year - neither are religious at all. Both really like it - they were also very generous with merit aid for them. I'll see if I can get some more color.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @ivycover Lol. Yeah, I know. I sort of live and die by our Naviance and the info I've gathered from families at our school. It's the most accurate way to predict acceptances. S19 applied to 13 schools and our predictions were exactly correct. Zero surprises.
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  • ivycoverivycover 135 replies1 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    homerdog wrote: »
    . . . . . These same kids got into places like Cornell, Georgetown, Chicago, Northwestern. . . . . .

    Now I'm distracted to the point of total uselessness. No disrespect to Washington or Chicago but have you ever watched the Colgate Cornell game at Ithaca on a crisp day? If I'd have only knowed about that phantom polo scholarship . . . . . . .

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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @wisteria100 what's your take on the politics at W&L? She is liberal. And she can get pretty riled up these days even though I don't see her as a SJW. She's a good listener and has conservative friends and likes to debate. She should be somewhere where all views are welcome.
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  • itsgettingreal17itsgettingreal17 3935 replies26 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @homerdog W&L is not going to be a good fit.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @ivycover ha! My point was that very capable kids get turned down at Vandy. Maybe that’s why Vanderbilt started waitlisting almost all of our RD kids - because they were choosing to go elsewhere. They waitlist them and then see who jumps through hoops to get taken off of the waitlist. The two kids I know well who were waitlisted and now going flew down there on May 2nd to show more interest. They both sent additional recommendations right away and wrote letters with very specific reasons why they would take a spot if offered. Vandy all about yield in RD I guess D21 could apply in RD and see what happens but I won’t have her waste an ED there.
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  • EmpireappleEmpireapple 1652 replies25 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I aways say start with geographic location first, then size (choose a school large enough that has options), and then look at price. This should generate a list to work with. Good luck!
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  • wisteria100wisteria100 4193 replies47 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @homerdog - My take on W&L is that it is definitely more conservative than your typical top LAC but in line with Wake politically.
    As for Santa Clara - thumbs up - but it is going to be the same type of Catholic/Jesuit vibe you will find at BC and Holy Cross. Welcoming to all, progressive in social justice issues, but if she is nixing BC and Holy Cross for being Jesuit, then she will nix that too.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @wisteria100 only 40% of the kids at Santa Clara identify as Catholic and that's half the percentage at BC so I thought maybe the religion part was a little less forefront at SC. I could be wrong. I've got a few leads here on people who have kids at Santa Clara so I'll see what they think.
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  • wisteria100wisteria100 4193 replies47 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    edited July 19
    @homerdog That % seems low to me, was definitely over 50% when we looked into it, but that was several yrs ago and things may have changed. I do recall the theology class requirement was bigger there than at BC or HC, but that may have changed as well.
    edited July 19
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  • wisteria100wisteria100 4193 replies47 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    Gettysburg and F&M could also be possible safety/match ideas
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  • socaldad2002socaldad2002 1321 replies27 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @homerdog FYI - SCU has less than 1% (100 of 5500 students) Jewish population if that matters to you (I remember your BC thread)?
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @socaldad2002 we aren’t Jewish.
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  • sushirittosushiritto 3875 replies11 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    I'm local to Santa Clara, but not an alum. Great academics, great campus, any "religiousness" is not that noticeable to me at all.

    The area is OK. And when I say OK, I'm not talking about issues with crime. There are some residential neighborhoods nearby, CalTrain is adjacent to campus for trips to SF or East Bay via Bart transfer and the SJ airport is "next door." Also, Avaya stadium, where the SJ Earthquakes play, is about a mile away. I remember attending a USWNT game there, on weekday, and the traffic was a complete nightmare.

    Alot of employers in SIlicon Valley hire SC grads, but probably behind bigger and/or more prestigious local schools like Cal, Stanford and SJSU.
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  • TheodenTheoden 172 replies5 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    @homerdog I think folks have given you good advice.

    I think, as others have mentioned you need a school with strong career services, strong research and internship opportunities and, ideally, a strong alumni network.

    Most of the LAC's you are looking at will have a broad variety of majors.

    Talking to professors in subjects that might interest her, sitting in on classes, staying overnight give students the right "gut feel" of a place.

    Your daughter's asks seem to "scream" NESCAC schools! ;-)

    Frankly a lot of the schools in the "hidden ivies" list might fit the bill:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Ivies

    Then, as matches and safeties, you might consider the schools in the Colleges That Change Lives list. It's a book, but look at the website: https://ctcl.org/ They are less famous than the hidden Ivies, but have lots to offer in terms of internships, research and career services. Some schools mentioned in this thread are there.

    One of the NESCAC schools I was impressed with in being market-driven and getting students to build their resume from day one was Connecticut College.







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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @Theoden thanks. I have Hidden Ivy book and Colleges that Change Lives book and S19 applied to five NESCACs so we are familiar. D21 is different than S19 but maybe they do overlap in some ways. I'll have to talk to her a bit more and maybe visit some of the NESCACs we did not see on S19 tours. She won't get into Amherst or Williams or probably Bowdoin. We visited Colby and she just thought it was too remote. That would leave just a few to consider. I'll have to read up on them. I definitely need to get her out to see schools because even just going to UW-Madison got her narrowing down what's important to her. Right now, planning on seeing Denison this October and Richmond, Wake, Davidson for spring break. I want her to see Colgate but that may have to be a summer trip and I guess we would see Hamilton if we are there as well. I'll need to have her read up a little bit and we need to wait and see how grades and scores pan out before we make any other plans.
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  • PetraMCPetraMC 734 replies5 threadsRegistered User Member
    Pitzer? Occidental?
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  • havenoideahavenoidea 255 replies13 threadsRegistered User Junior Member
    A friend of our S is a legacy at Vandy (attending) and his dad said he thought Colgate and Richmond were similar (though smaller). Both have great career centers and alumni, but they’re already on your list. I was very impressed with Lafayette’s career focus and alumni network - they bring kids in starting 1st yr and help them pick majors if necessary. But other than checking out these resources and alumni bases, and sticking to LACs, I think it’s difficult these days to build a list when a child doesn’t have an idea for a major (we have twins like this, same yr as yours). While you may think she won’t go stem, you never know. We know a girl who went from English to CS. So, just make sure of ease of entry to majors.
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  • homerdoghomerdog 4967 replies89 threadsRegistered User Senior Member
    @PetraMC Pitzer way too weird. She probably fits Pomona or CMC best of that consortium but no one gets in those schools from our high school. I appreciate the CA ideas though!
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